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  •  Just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my new laptop (10+ / 0-)

    Microsoft is making it harder and harder to dual-boot a computer.
       Microsoft's UEFI (i.e. Secure Boot) prevents you from installing more than one operating system. You have to disable it in the BIOS. And even after I did that, there were "traces" in the master boot record that I had to clean up with some special software, before I could install Ubuntu.

    “Wall Street had been doing business with pieces of paper; and now someone asked for a dollar, and it was discovered that the dollar had been mislaid.” ― Upton Sinclair

    by gjohnsit on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 06:43:25 PM PDT

    •  Hmmm, my laptop (3+ / 0-)

      has had both since I brought it home and plugged her in last year. First thing I did was trash Norton, install Avast and Malwarebytes, then headed over to the Ubuntu shack.
      So new windows systems aren't friendly, huh? Care to share what your 'special software' is?  

      DH uses our desktop box, so we 'have' to use Microshaft crap because he likes the seamless interface with his productivity software from work, and as long as the keyboard works he's a happy camper.


      Information is power. But; like all power, there are those who want to keep it for themselves. Aaron Swartz ~1986-2013~

      by Lisa Lockwood on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 07:15:19 PM PDT

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        I used fixparts.
           I've been researching it and it seems that Ubuntu can be installed with UEFI. But since I was downgrading from Win8 to Win7 (I can't stand Win8), that's probably where I ran into problems.

        “Wall Street had been doing business with pieces of paper; and now someone asked for a dollar, and it was discovered that the dollar had been mislaid.” ― Upton Sinclair

        by gjohnsit on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 09:04:46 PM PDT

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        •  Ya, well, that win8 problem is relevant (2+ / 0-)
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          because our desktop has been infected with it.

          Hate it. HATE it. So unintuitive and clumsy. Why take 1 or 2 steps to accomplish a task when you can take 5?
          Great logic.
           Sheesh.


          Information is power. But; like all power, there are those who want to keep it for themselves. Aaron Swartz ~1986-2013~

          by Lisa Lockwood on Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 09:15:14 PM PDT

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          •  Or spend $50 with StarDock to make Windows 8 (0+ / 0-)

            behave like it should.  That includes a regular though highly customizable start menu, boot to the desktop by default, the ability to change themes and wallpapers even in Metro, and even run Metro apps in a regular desktop window just like regular software (the last one is a bit buggy as it is definitely a hack, relying on API interception/hooking and other dirty tricks).

            You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

            by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 01:55:53 AM PDT

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        •  Do not confuse UEFI with UEFI secure boot as (3+ / 0-)

          they are two separate things.  Linux can handle UEFI just fine and assuming your implementation of "secure boot" lets you add your own keys then it will run just fine on secure boot without having to turn it off.  However, not all implementations of secure boot allow that, some are only on (with preloaded keys only) or off.  Also, some UEFI systems will only boot an OS with a certain label.  To be specific, if it doesn't claim to be Microsoft Windows or Red Hat Enterprise Linux then it won't even show up in the boot menu.

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 01:53:37 AM PDT

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