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    edr, I've looked at the PNPs for all provinces in the past (for someone else), but I didn't have time to do this again. I mentioned Manitoba because that's the only one I had time to look at.

    People vary in what they consider to be a great place to live. I know people who have loved living in Canada's far north---the more north it was, the happier they were. They couldn't get enough of 23-hour sunshine or 23-hour nighttime up there; or the extremely chilly winters; or the high cost of living. But it wouldn't be me opting for that.

    Somebody who considers the Lower Mainland of BC about the only tolerable place to live within Canada--or maybe downtown Toronto--will not be interested in Manitoba. But then again, will BC or Ontario be interested in helping them get permanent residence in Canada? Sure, if they're surgeons, I guess--but maybe not so much the families with less exalted trades.

    I think Manitoba has added those "ties to Manitoba" provisions because they want to be sure that applicants are well aware that, for example, the province gets mighty cold in the wintertime.

    But some good things about Manitoba:
    - Nice people.
    - Lots of progressives, who might be NDP or Green or Liberal.
    - Looks like they're doing a lot better with jobs and the economy than a whole of places in the U.S.
    - Provincial health care, better than a whole lot of places in the U.S.

    I live in Alberta, which is doing very well on the jobs and the economy front, and it has a lot of nice people, but it gets really cold in the winter and has a shortage of politically progressive people.

    Let me give you an example of why I think Manitoba is a remarkably decent and fair-minded province. In most of Canada, temporary foreign workers are welcomed in, work for a couple years, and then get sent home.

    Manitoba figures that it is the workers who are considered temporary, not the jobs. So a temporary foreign worker lucky enough to work in Manitoba is given the opportunity to apply to the provincial nominee program after they've been in the province for a year or thereabouts. If the person has done well (language, law-abiding, that kind of thing), Manitoba will help them get permanent residence through PNP.

    As far as I know, Alberta's not doing that, or BC: they're happy to see TFWs come and TFWs go. High-end employees might get help--petroleum engineers for example--but people in the middle, not so much.

    So someone who has thought about immigrating to Canada to find a job, health care, good education, and so forth, could do a lot worse than look at a province like Manitoba, which wants families to move there and is willing to help make that happen.

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