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  •  ruppersberger co-authored cispa (13+ / 0-)

    he has zero credibility on this.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 08:57:56 PM PDT

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    •  Establishment Dems have a stake in smearing him (9+ / 0-)

      too -- any political ally of the WH, in particular. And many Dems on the Intelligence Committee and related Congressional committees who knew about this program already have a political stake in minimizing it (and killing the messenger, Snowden), to avoid embarrassment with their Dem supporters back home.

      I'll reserve judgement until objective analysis emerges.

      "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by Kombema on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 09:11:31 PM PDT

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      •  Exactly (3+ / 0-)
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        deep info, tardis10, Kombema

        once you have decided that there is no problem needing to be fixed, you must delegitimize anyone so tasteless as to continue to press for reform.

        What are you doing to fight the dangerous and counterproductive error of treating dirtbag terrorist criminals as though they were comic book supervillains? I can't believe we still have to argue this shit, let alone on Daily Kos.

        by happymisanthropy on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 10:18:54 PM PDT

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    •  Smoke and mirrors (10+ / 0-)

       

      Emerging from a hearing with NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander, Reps. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the Intelligence Committee, and Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.), the senior Democrat on the panel, said Snowden simply wasn't in the position to access the content of the communications gathered under National Security Agency programs, as he's claimed.

          http://thehill.com/....

      Well that's interesting.   The La times reported earlier today that

         

      Former National Security Agency contract employee Edward Snowden used a computer thumb drive to smuggle highly classified documents out of an NSA facility in Hawaii, using a portable digital device supposedly barred inside the cyber spying agency, U.S. officials said.

              Investigators “know how many documents he downloaded and what server he took them from,” said one official who would not be named while speaking about the ongoing investigation.

          Snowden worked as a system administrator, a technical job that gave him wide access to NSA computer networks and presumably a keen understanding of how those networks are monitored for unauthorized downloads.

      But...

         

      "He was lying," Rogers said. "He clearly has over-inflated his position, he has over-inflated his access and he's even over-inflated what the actually technology of the programs would allow one to do. It's impossible for him to do what he was saying he could do."
      And...  

         

      The criticism from the Intel leaders took a turn toward the personal Thursday, as Rogers and Ruppersberger questioned how the 29-year-old Snowden, who never graduated from high school, could have risen to a position to access such sensitive information.

              "I hope that we don't decide that our national security interests are going to be determined by a high-school dropout who had a whole series of both academic troubles and employment troubles," Rogers said.

      But... the LA Times again:

           

      Officials said they still don’t know how Snowden got access to an order marked “Top Secret” from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, or a highly-classified directive from President Obama authorizing a military target list for cyber attacks. Neither document would be widely shared, or normally available to a low-level NSA employee.
      Well, the above doesn't jive. Sorry Congressmen, but clearly Snowden was in the position to access highly classified directives and Top Secret documents of the FISA court. Examples have been published worldwide.

      "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

      by smiley7 on Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 09:30:08 PM PDT

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