Skip to main content

View Diary: Thousands of companies swap data with the NSA (247 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  It cuts both ways, I think. On other Democratic- (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    leaning boards there is a strong contingent calling for Greenwald to be prosecuted, under some bizarre theory where the First Amendment I guess simply ceases to exist. They've already eviscerated the Fourth, might as well make room for the First, I suppose that thinking goes.

    As soon as Loretta Sanchez issued her not-so sub rosa invitation to other whistleblowers and investigative journalists yesterday to reveal more of the 'iceberg,' I figured this could become, if not a government-ending scandal, then certainly a party-killing issue, before it's all over.

    We shall see.

    •  wow (0+ / 0-)

      so you are one of those then? I love dealing with the green party so full of idealism and yet so far from reality

      In the time that I have been given,
      I am what I am

      by duhban on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 03:50:34 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Hunh? One of what? Are you red-baiting (or, in (0+ / 0-)

        this case, green-baiting)? I'm a registered Dem and voted Dem from 1980 through 2008. I voted Peace and Freedom in 2012 to protest the non-closure of Guantanamo and other issues where I felt like Obama had failed to deliver.

        Now it appears I may have been merely the proverbial canary in a coal mine of noxious Democratic fumes.

        But, as I said, we shall see.

        •  you are the one rooting for the dem party to fall (0+ / 0-)

          not me

          In the time that I have been given,
          I am what I am

          by duhban on Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 05:24:54 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I'm rooting for the entire capitalist-imperialist (0+ / 0-)

            system to fail, including both major bourgeois parties. I suppose I subscribe to the romantic Marxian notion of 'historical inevitability' for said failure, while trying in the meantime to ameliorate as many of the cruelties of capitalism as I can and stand resolutely against its manifest brutality.

            But I also adhere strictly to a belief in 'one person, one vote' and try to hew adamantly to a policy of non-violence in both my personal and my poltiical lives.

            Here's an interesting thought experiment for you to try: if we were to take the entire U.S. national income and divide it equally, each American family of four would receive approximately $200,000/year. In the abstract, doesn't that strike you as a far more equitable, hence moral, distribution of wealth than the current landscape of suffering and misery?

            •  and I don't (0+ / 0-)

              I think Marx at best saw the problems of a 100 years ago but the problems of a 100 years ago are not inherently the probelms we face today. That said I think him a fool for thinking captialism will fail because frankly while it's not perfect it's been implemented far better then Marx's ideas.

              I think strict equality is great in theory but so long as we are dealing with the fundamental forces that drive captialism (want and scarcity) that's not going to happen.

              I would love to have some Roddenberry Utopia but for now the reality is that's not happening and so we are left doing what we can with what we have. It really sucks sometimes but then that's life.

              In the time that I have been given,
              I am what I am

              by duhban on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 01:23:06 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site