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    I my experience our problem results from the lack of a screening process for military people.  Look at the number of vets who have never seen action, but still require a government program to encourage private employers to hire them.  Look at the number who can't fill out the paperwork required to get the free government benefits without help.  I have been filing self employment tax since I was 18 years old.  It is not that hard.  Unless of course you have been taken care of 24/7 by the government all your life.  That was always my theory about John McCain.  He was a third generation government dependent.  Things are so bad that the federal government is trying to get private firms to alter their training to meet the low standards of the military rather than raise the military training to meet the norms of the private sector.

    As far as pay, I encourage any high school graduate with no skills to get a job with full benefits that pays 1500 a month.  Here is a hint.  It does not exist.  DK just published a table indicated how scarce jobs are, period.  This does not even include the billion dollars that tax payers spend to subsidize potato chips and candy. Enlisted with 25 years is 6K a month.  As far as 24/7, obviously one has no experience with real jobs in the real world.  You can be scheduled at anytime, and if you don't make it you won't be scheduled next week.  To make that 1500 you will have to work 10 extra hours a week, and there will be no benefits or subsidized ice cream.

    Of course no one deserves a pension, any more than a military person who has nothing but sit in a recruiting office an troll for young girls deserves health care for life.  But in the case of teacher who has gone to college, gotten an advanced degree, worked for 5 to 10 years in the private sector to build up life experience, and then worked for 25 years as a teacher, the effect on the economy would be positive. Unlike a military person who would retire with perhaps $40K from the time he is 38 to the time he dies, a teacher would draw $35K from the time they are 55 to the time they die.  Add to this that most teacher retirement systems are fully funded mostly by teachers with state contributions, and not by the taxpayer, this is win win.  In fact the only problems are teachers that retire and then are rehired at full wages.

    •  Some agreement... (0+ / 0-)

      Indeed, a recruiter who hangs out in a recruiting office in a strip mall absolutely should not get the same benefits as someone trundling around in full combat gear in the desert avoiding IEDs and rocket propelled grenades. Both are military but the jobs are incomprehensibly different.

      The military however, due in part to the low pay and personal sacrifices, can't recruit many well educated and skilled people for enlisted jobs so they have to take a lot in, filter them in real life situations, and try to keep the ones that show promise.

      Very few jobs in industry are as 7/24 as many in the military. Obviously I, and many others, are expected to drop everything if possible to respond to a customer crisis. However, there's flexibility (as I'm not the CEO of a major corporation who, even when in a remote site, has to get their tail back to HQ or other suitable venue when the shit hits the fan - but they have satellite phones and helicopters and "people" to make that all happen) - my group and my boss will work through it and get it done and the customer will be none the wiser for it and not be aware it would have been resolved more quickly if I was available.

      But in the case of teacher who has gone to college, gotten an advanced degree, worked for 5 to 10 years in the private sector to build up life experience, and then worked for 25 years as a teacher, the effect on the economy would be positive.
      I don't have any statistics and my personal experience may be anomalous, but those who work 5 to 10 years in the private sector and then teach for 25 years seems like the exception rather than the rule.

      I know of a number of people who intended to do that, but upon entering the public school system gave up and returned to the private sector within a couple years. Not because teaching was "hard", but because the entrenched bureaucracy both in administration and in the teacher culture, esp. around not really knowing and keeping up to date on the material being taught and in not being "results driven", discouraged them.

      I have personally experienced a teacher (in a fairly high achieving district) who somehow taught for over 15 years in high school math yet misspoke in multiple ways in middle school math classes. For example, they completely screwed up rational vs. irrational numbers, had no clue about the sum of the simplest possible series (even though it was spoon fed in the teachers' notes for the lesson plan), was so busy trying to be a "45 year old buddy to all the students" that it was painful to watch, and asserted answers were wrong because they were not expressed in exactly the form he expected them although any engineer or scientist would have expected them to be in the form the student presented them. How this teacher survived for more than a year is beyond my comprehension, how they survived for over 15 years is just mind-boggling. (BTW, they got booted into "administration" eventually because apparently that was a way to get them out of the classroom -- but they could probably do MORE damage in administration than in the classroom but it just wouldn't be as visibly embarrassing to the system).

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