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  •  Yeah because this just like slavery and racism. (0+ / 0-)

    You really should stop dumbing down the history of people struggling for centuries. It is inappropriate and many find it offensive.

    I have read many African-Americans disgust with people on the Left making such willy-nilly comparisons. Either you do not know or you don't care. Either way, shame on you. Your outrage does not entitle you mascot-making.

    The politicians may be bought, and the system corrupt, but it is our duty to fix these things.

    by sebastianguy99 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 12:57:19 AM PDT

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    •  It's a valid point about unjust laws (3+ / 0-)
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      It's not dumbing down. There have been many unjust laws in our past and many unjust laws now like the drug war whihc is the New Jim Crow. Dumbing down is preventing the point isn't valid specifically since many in the civil rights community were surveiled by J. Edgar Hoover and besides the fact that they knew about it, they didn't think it was honky dorry they just kept going to stop it. They didn't make excuses for him because he was working for JFK either.

      You have read many African Americans disgust with people on the left? WTF are you? WTF do you speak for them? Are you pretending there are no African Americans on the left? There are, and they don't need people claiming to speak for them whether they are on the left or not. They also don't need people pretending they are all monolithic like your offensive language as if you speak for them. Bullshit.

      Speaking of not knowing or caring, the Arab American community profiled in the same way. You don't give a damn about how this affects them and it's a similar civil rights struggle, especially with the Guantanamo hunger strike going on right now. No, people that downplay what's going on are severely ignorant of history, specifically wen they try to twist and mangle a valid point as you did without realizing how offensive and ignorant your comment is.

      No, you don't get to speak for anyone or any race if you think the Bush NSA laws Obama is conducting are awesome.

      "Given the willful denial, among a host of kossacks, of the basic proposition that 2+2=4, I find the diarist's tone to be remarkably restrained." ~ Wisepiper

      by priceman on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 01:55:37 AM PDT

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      •  No it not the same and I will not STFU about it. (0+ / 0-)

        When African-Americans say to stop minimizing their experiences, you should listen. You apparently do not and then get upset when called out about it.

        Shame on you. You are no better than those that insist on telling Native Americans that it is an "honor" to be mascotted even though they object based for historical reasons.

        Trying to make this about who gets to speak for whom is not going to wipe the stench of your privilege-seeking behavior.

        Stop invoking MLK.

        The politicians may be bought, and the system corrupt, but it is our duty to fix these things.

        by sebastianguy99 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 04:18:15 PM PDT

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        •  ANY general claim that something ... (0+ / 0-)

          ... is legal and therefore its OK is debunked by ANY example of an unjust and abusive law.

          Plessy v Ferguson is not "the same as" signing the Patriot Act re-authorization into law in the sense that we can make some kind of equivalence between in what ways they are unjust and abusive laws ...

          ... but no such claim was made, so arguing that they aren't the same in that way is evidently a red herring, and the only question whether its a cynical red herring or whether you have first distracted yourself from the point being made.

          But the segregation laws upheld by Plessy v Ferguson and the domestic surveillance state upheld by re-authorizing the Patriot Act are "the same" in the sense of both being legal at the time.

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          by BruceMcF on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 05:15:30 PM PDT

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