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  •  it's not faith (1+ / 0-)
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    lehman scott

    it's just history.

    lots of history.

    "Golden rule" and all that.

    the 0.01 Percenters are NOT just going to re-distribute all their wealth.

    yeah right.

    Meanwhile us grunt workers will be forced into "serfdom on steroids,"
    while we wait for that magic transformation of a world without "private ownership" to somehow happen.

    The world is what is it.  The sooner we try to work with that reality, the sooner we might effectively change it.

    Advocate for Democratic Socialism (like Sanders), but don't expect Market Forces to disappear overnight.

    "Black Markets" amidst chaos, is hardly better than what we have now.  Which is what societal breakdown would most likely lead to.


    •  And nothing ever changes? (1+ / 0-)
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      lehman scott

      If it didn't happen in history, it will never happen?


      Advocate for Democratic Socialism (like Sanders), but don't expect Market Forces to disappear overnight.
      And who said anything about "overnight"?  Market forces" haven't produced an adequate economic growth rate to sustain a capitalist world-system for forty years now -- what the elites have relied upon to keep profits up is a tricky combination of Ponzi schemes and government-aided theft.  And those schemes won't last forever, as the economic crises keep multiplying and dividing.

      Oh, sure, there will be last-ditch, increasingly authoritarian measures to keep capitalism in place, like what you see in Greece now.  Their half-lives will be short.  Eventually knowledge that capitalism is a fraud will spread, and then we will see a long, conflict-filled, and painful debate about what is to replace capitalism, as Wallerstein predicted:

      In a structural crisis, the only certainty is that the existing system—the capitalist world-economy—cannot survive. What is impossible to know is what the successor system will be.
      Capitalism is not really going to last all that long.  What replaces it is of course up for grabs -- it could be some form of transitory neofeudalism on the way to something worse, or it could be a network of emergency organizations.  One thing is for sure, however -- writing diaries about how efficiency is going to save us is NOT an intervention into what will count as "postcapitalism."

      "It's not my fault reality is marxist." - Che Guevara

      by Cassiodorus on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 12:49:35 PM PDT

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