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    •  My bad (5+ / 0-)

      effects vs. affects has always confused me.

      “Wall Street had been doing business with pieces of paper; and now someone asked for a dollar, and it was discovered that the dollar had been mislaid.” ― Upton Sinclair

      by gjohnsit on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 02:16:15 PM PDT

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      •  The key point that people aren't addgressing (12+ / 0-)

        sufficiently is that when you say it affects us, the "us" really is progressives, lefties, and people who organize for positive change against the corporatacracy.

        The connection has yet to be confirmed, but it is incredibly likely that the NSA's PRISM is also Palantir's Prism. Palantir denies it, but they are proven liars.

        Palantir, you may remember, was one of the Intel contractors hired by corporate law firm Hunton & Williams on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce and Bank of America to mount a counter-espionage attack on progressives including labor - basically anyone who opposes the Chamber.

        Palantir's CEO eventually apologized to progressives, including Glenn Greenwald - one of their named targets. Their apology was a joke.

        These private contractors work for Wall Street and the NSA, CIA and FBI simultaneously. There is very compelling evidence that these clients are part of a whole. Google, Microsoft, Facebook etc are Wall Street. It's all one big cesspool of corruption, unconstitutionality, and anti-leftist agendas.

        I've looked at Palantir closely and I find it almost impossible to believe that their software is not the one the NSA is using. The descriptions are identical - even their promotional graphics are identical.

        Regardless, the place where the NSA and Wall Street intersects is everywhere. And that's a story unto itself.

      •  For myself, I solved it by thinking "AVON" (2+ / 0-)
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        Affect is the Verb, the Other is Not.

        (Unfortunately, like the "i before c" rule, there are exceptions.)

        The real downside in employing that little acronym to keep affect and effect straight, is that every time I sit at the keyboard I can't help imagining the Avon Lady peering over my shoulder.

        WTFWJD? LOTE? I sincerely doubt that.

        by WisePiper on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 03:41:47 PM PDT

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        •  Damn. Of course I meant "i before e" rule, (1+ / 0-)
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          but you all knew that.


          WTFWJD? LOTE? I sincerely doubt that.

          by WisePiper on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 03:53:52 PM PDT

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        •  Small picky grammar note (5+ / 0-)

          Both words can be nouns as well as verbs -- which is why they can be tricky.

          "Affect" -- verb -- pass along a change in conditions to the object -- "The new rules will affect us all."

          "Affect" -- noun -- the ability of the face to show emotion -- "He has almost no affect."

          "Effect" -- verb -- cause to happen -- "The new leader will certainly effect change in the unit."

          "Effect" -- noun -- a change in conditions caused by an outside force -- "The tornado had quite an effect on the old barn."

          The verb "affect" and the noun "effect" are the most common, by far, and you can usually be safe with the rule noted. Just wanted to point out the other uses, in case anyone came across them.

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          by bmaples on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 07:16:29 PM PDT

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    •  Not just grammar (or rather vocabulary) (2+ / 0-)
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      As 17th century author Nicolas Boileau once wrote:

      What one purports to understand must be expressed clearly.
      Mastery of the language is the first tool of freedom, for without it, there is no ability to think.

      See also : George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four, Newspeak.

      I deal in facts. My friends are few but fast.

      by Farugia on Sat Jun 15, 2013 at 03:19:01 PM PDT

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