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  •  You know the irony to your comment (10+ / 0-)

    Is that if you really want to look at where the military-industrial complex is actually trying to create a new profit center, you should look at the negotiations over border security and comprehensive immigration reform. The Dems want a pathway to citizenship. The Republicans and their military industrial client base want billions in infrared sensors, smart fences, surveillance equipment, a technological bandaid, an expensive boondoggle of the US as gated community.

    That's where the real lobbying is taking place right now.

    The idea that the defense industry is pushing Obama to support the Syrian rebels so they can make a buck is kinda funny. Yea, no doubt that's Obama's motive for his decision.  I can see the image in people's minds... Slick lobbyists from Booz Allen sneaking in to the NSA and bribing Samantha Power with stock options and a great gig with a defense industry trade group once she leaves government.  

    The truth is, Obama is acting in a situation where there are few good options. If you really want to see defense industry corruption in action, maybe look closer to home at the border security lobbying so effectively reported by the New York Times and at that huge NSA facility being erected in deep red Utah.  But Syria? This administration acting from the motive of wanting to increase war profits? I'm tired of that sort of nonsense argument.

    “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

    by ivorybill on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 05:58:33 AM PDT

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    •  Glad somebody else sees the border (8+ / 0-)

      military ramp up for what it is:  profit and jobs for the MIC.  Maybe we need to expand MIC to include intelligence.  MIIC--Military Industrial Intelligence Complex.

    •  The argument was never Syria, nor an argument. (0+ / 0-)

      While what you've stated regarding the border security cheerleading is obvious to all who pay any attention, my point did not lay in that direction at all.  Nonsense is reacting to what you wanted to read instead of what was said.

      Someone once asked me why do you always insist on taking the hard road? and I replied why do you assume I see two roads?

      by funluvn1 on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 06:28:10 AM PDT

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      •  OK, well I suppose that I disagree (1+ / 0-)
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        also with the premise that the MI complex lobbies for a world war between Islam and the West.  Was that your contention?

        “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

        by ivorybill on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 06:33:57 AM PDT

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    •  It's a fallacy to believe (1+ / 0-)
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      the MIC can push for funding on only one front at a time.  They are perfectly capable of lobbying for billions of dollars for technology to "protect" our border (always our southern border) while at the same time lobbying for intervention in a hot war that destroys materiel that then has to be replaced.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 06:44:58 AM PDT

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      •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

        why aren't we pushing for northern boarder protection, to keep all those Canadian's from stealing our jobs?  Oh, wait... they're not brown people.  Never mind.

        We can have democracy in this country, or we can have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both. Louis Brandeis

        by Ohkwai on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 07:00:12 AM PDT

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        •  Snowboarders try to work as little as possible! (0+ / 0-)

          The Great Wall of Canada wouldn't be needed if the US enacted real immigration reform - lock up the CEO if a single employee is found without proper documentation! Impose $500,000 per day per employee fines if you can't find the CEO. Outlandish, you say? Any less outlandish than demanding zero entries on the Mexican border for six months to hold the immigration bill hostage?

          And about the lack of "brown people"...

          In 2011, 19.1 per cent of Canada’s population identified themselves as a member of a visible minority group, when filling out a questionnaire for the National Household Survey.

          Add aboriginal Canadians who represent 4.3% of the population.

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