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  •  Nobody is listening to your phone calls (9+ / 0-)

    Is accurate-ish. The data is collected into a big bucket, called a knowledge base, then filtered through some AI filters. (It's called Rapid Knowledge Formation - do a google search to read the myriad presentations on the research projects being run at universities around the world).

    No one listens to your calls until the software flags you. Even at that, I imagine there's plenty in your meta data and your internet communications that ensures they still don't listen to call content until things are flagged through multiple layers of subject matter experts. I also expect that the system applies speech to text filters to convert your calls to text so the RKF filters can analyze them automatically before they get passed on to a human to listen and verify/analyze the content (speech to text is notoriously inaccurate). In the end, no one has to listen to your calls to know what's in them until very late in the game. You're already well on your way to terrorist watch list if an actual human bothers to listen to the call content.

    •  It may be accurate, but it isn't what (4+ / 0-)
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      I want to know.

      We don't know if they are recording our calls or not at this point. Although really we do. If they're tapping into the internet backbone then our calls go over that, so they most likely are recording them. Not that people really make calls that much anymore.

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      by AoT on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 02:10:33 PM PDT

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      •  They have to be recording them (4+ / 0-)
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        Without that, going back to listen later wouldn't be possible.

        Since the President, Pelosi, et. al., have all mentioned with some variations in wording that they "go back" to listen only after they get a warrant, then the call content has to be stored somewhere.

      •  Interesting tidbit (1+ / 0-)
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        Erin Burnett on CNN, interviewing the FBI's Tim Clemente in the aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombing. Clemente states that call content is being recorded - in bold:

        BURNETT: Tim, is there any way, obviously, there is a voice mail they can try to get the phone companies to give that up at this point. It's not a voice mail. It's just a conversation. There's no way they actually can find out what happened, right, unless she tells them?

        CLEMENTE: No, there is a way. We certainly have ways in national security investigations to find out exactly what was said in that conversation. It's not necessarily something that the FBI is going to want to present in court, but it may help lead the investigation and/or lead to questioning of her. We certainly can find that out.

        BURNETT: So they can actually get that? People are saying, look, that is incredible.

        CLEMENTE: No, welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as we speak whether we know it or like it or not.

    •  Maybe not (1+ / 0-)
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      See this.

      This does not seem to imply massive signal intercept but targeted snooping without a warrant.

      This would be generally consistent with your comments but I'm a bit doubtful voice data is included in mass intercepts as it's pretty huge and useless without decrypt.

      But I might be wrong.

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      by koNko on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 07:00:09 PM PDT

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