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  •  Well-done diary. Thanks for the info. (6+ / 0-)

    As to the difference between "know" and "suspect" I think it prudent to assume that power-seekers will seek to gain all the power they possibly can. (Hence, we have the Bill of Rights.)

    Surely our various secret agencies have been helmed by people who tend to the right wing, authoritarian model. And authoritarians have dreamed of the panopticon since the Year Dog. Certainly the 20th C taught us that authoritarians, first thing they do, is collect all the data they can on the citizenry.

    I feel if you suspect the worst from power-seekers, and assume it is either in place or will be in place at the first opportunity, this is entirely reasonable and prudent.

    What we know at this point would tend to confirm what we suspect, but whether it does or doesn't, it's already a very bad thing.


    Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

    by Jim P on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 12:49:59 PM PDT

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    •  Not my diary, but, um, thanks? (3+ / 0-)
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      Also, what I suspect, however justifiably, does not constitute evidence. I want to hear this from someone in the know. Preferably, from several somebodies.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 01:34:15 PM PDT

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      •  Oops. I guess the "ko" at the beginning (2+ / 0-)
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        of each name confused me.

        But your comments have been excellent as well, so take that compliment.

        And I appreciate the necessity of separating the known, from suspected, which understanding I think this diary helps.

        Still knowledge is power, and power corrupts.


        Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

        by Jim P on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 02:43:54 PM PDT

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