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    koNko

    You're making this way too complicated. I'm talking about internet-connected devices like PCs, laptops, tablets, phones, etc., (which most such devices are these days), on which some data is stored but never transmitted beyond one's phone, because it doesn't need to be, or you don't want it to be.

    E.g. scans of old family photos, personal diary entries, software you're developing for personal use, etc., that you don't back up to the "cloud".

    The ONLY way for the NSA to get such data is to hack into your device, either electronically, via spyware and such--or perhaps inductive taps and such--or physically, by getting physical access to your device and copying this data. Otherwise, they can't get it, because it never leaves that device.

    And I see a big difference between both methods of data acquisition, even if both might be unconstitutional. One is unconstitutional acquisition, while the other is unconstitutional breaking and/or intruding AND acquisition.

    It's like the difference between secretly recording a confidential conversation you have in a cafe via a ceiling-mounted mic-equipped security camera, and installing a bug in your home to record your private conversations. We've somehow become nonplussed about the former, but the latter, I suspect, would still upset most people.

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 01:50:32 PM PDT

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      koNko

      why did you ask the question?  And your 'one question I'm asking' keeps changing in different comments (which can happen, I know).  Then, whatever answer you get, you say 'that's not the question I'm asking, my real question is . . ..'

      Several other people, beside myself are apparently answering questions you haven't asked.  But that's to the community's advantage, because each reply to you contains good information, and more links, for the rest of us can continue to learn.

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        deep info, koNko

        I'm just speculating on what it might be. I ask because I genuinely want to know if there's been any credible reporting that this is happening. To my knowledge there has not, but I'm hardly able to scan the entire internet.

        I'm not the NSA, you know. :-)

        And I believe I've asked the same question, and it hasn't changed, except in wording. I think that some may simply not have understood it, perhaps not realizing that there is a difference between one's data and the internet.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 02:15:21 PM PDT

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