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  •  It might be years before we hear (2+ / 0-)
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    blueoasis, koNko

    from a whistleblower, if ever; if there's even any such thing going on.

    I can't see why product manufacturers would put surveillance capability into products without a wish to surveil. Ostensibly for better advertising-pitching, but these devices send pictures/sounds of you in your home!

    Were people who desire wealth and power the kind of people you could trust, there'd be no problem. But who is there to trust in Business and Government?


    Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

    by Jim P on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 02:47:31 PM PDT

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    •  Not sure what you mean (3+ / 0-)
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      deep info, Tony Situ, koNko

      What does Windows 7 or MS Word have to do with surveillance? If I use both to compose a short story on my PC that I never send anyone, how is it within the legal mandate of either product, or of any other SW or HW I have installed on my PC, to transmit it elsewhere without my knowledge and consent?

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 02:50:33 PM PDT

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      •  "Authorization" and "capability" (1+ / 0-)
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        koNko

        are not the same thing.

        People in power do things they don't have "legal mandates" for all the time. Surely, our memories aren't that short.


        Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

        by Jim P on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 04:36:12 PM PDT

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        •  True (2+ / 0-)
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          Tony Situ, koNko

          But absent evidence, all we have is speculation, not knowledge. I couldn't stand Bush but I never accused him of anything there wasn't proof he did.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 05:51:14 PM PDT

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