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  •  Even Greenwald was in favor of spying.... (7+ / 0-)

    ....with a secret court order back in 2006.

     In 1978, we realized that the power to eavesdrop on American citizens is an extraordinary power and it has been abused by Republican and Democratic administrations for decades As a result, we trust our government-- our federal government -- to have this power only if someone is watching over them.

    And that "someone" is the FISA court that is expert in the law and that it trusted to keep the country's secrets and that was the way we could assure ourselves that this power would not be abused, that President abided by the law.

     

    http://driftglass.blogspot.com/...

    •  Good article. (0+ / 0-)

      I wish he'd fix this statement:

      "I do which he'd stop."

    •  Particularlized warrants are one thing (3+ / 0-)
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      ek hornbeck, CroneWit, majyqman

      That's what everyone thought the FISA court was issuing.

      We now know that the FISA court orders are "general warrants", 4th amendment violations.

      •  Yes, that is why this is alarming (0+ / 0-)

        This made the leap from specific individuals / organizations to everyone rapidly.  Truly, does the military (NSA) regard every american citizen as a threat?  Perhaps, this is the sad yet predictable consequence of a "global war on terror" mind set that views the entire world (including the USA) as a "battle field".

        As an aside, doesn't using the military in this fashion constitute a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act? To many, that seems like an anachronism but I think it's sound policy in the "democracy" to prohibit the military from operating directly against American citizens at home.

        "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

        by noofsh on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 03:29:59 PM PDT

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