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  •  But not as repressive as the Shah . . . (1+ / 0-)
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    whom we installed and forced upon them.

    I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson

    by bobdevo on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 03:10:31 PM PDT

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    •  I don't disagree with that, and I (1+ / 0-)
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      never have. The Shah was the worst--you get no argument from me on that. However, just because the Shah was really really bad does not give the current regime a lifetime pass to do whatever keeps them in power.

      You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

      by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 07:27:32 AM PDT

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      •  No - but it does give the Iranian people (1+ / 0-)
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        a reason to be perpetually pissed at the US, until such time as we can demonstrate they are more than pawns in geopolitical endgames . . .

        I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson

        by bobdevo on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 12:46:49 PM PDT

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        •  True, but I would bet that right now (0+ / 0-)

          they are more pissed at their own government. They'll never forget the US support of the Shah, but I do think that if a US government started to behave differently they would be pretty forgiving. They remember, but I don't think they would be spiteful about it.

          I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon, however, because there's too much riding on Iran being one of the big bogeymen of the ME. Even if Obama were to want a sort of detente with Iran, domestic US politics and Israel would not let him patch things up very much.

          It is good to be rid of Ahmadinejad. He had a real knack for saying stupid things and being a lightning rod. If Rowhani turns out to be more effective, however, I am sure you will see a shift in coverage that emphasizes how irrelevant the President is. When Ahmadinejad was in power his every utterance was interpreted for maximum threat and aggression, as if he actually commanded the armed forces.

          You may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful wife, and you may ask yourself, "How did I get here?"

          by FrankCornish on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 01:32:08 PM PDT

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