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  •  So what exactly are you saying, your gun is going (1+ / 0-)
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    to save the right to peaceably assemble?

    I was talking about what the NRA has done to the 2nd Amendment.

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    by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 12:29:21 PM PDT

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    •  Bzzzt, try again. alagorys for $100 Alex. (1+ / 0-)
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      The 2nd amendment covers two separate topics, closely related, separated by comas, ended with a period.  26 words, two rights, one amendment.

      The 1st amendment covers four separated topics, closely related, separated by comas and semicolons, ended with a period.  35 words, four rights, one amendment.

      Trying to infer that the people's RKBA is somehow tied to the state's militia is about as good as trying to argue that the right to speak/print freely is only tied to right of freedom of/from religion.

      •  I think you are very wrong here. (1+ / 0-)
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        the Gun ParTEA isn't going to win here. The belly-up-to-the-bar is not a method of gun control. As more and more people figure out that it is a free-for-all guns for everyone and as more and more children are killed each week. Well, I wouldn't want to be you with your theories.

        It's not going away.

        The Newtown parents are still reeling from the loss of their children. They have a cause. We are behind them.

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        by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 12:46:41 PM PDT

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        •  Are you basing that on the one poll... (1+ / 0-)
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          where 90% of America thinks universal background checks is a good idea?

          Whereby, some portion of that number (sadly obscured) consists of gun owners, who pass a 'universal background check' every time they buy a new gun by filling out form 4473?

          Whereby, some portion of that number, lives in states where UBC's are already existing law (illinois, among others)?

          A good portion of that 90% thinks UBC's are a good idea and are already living under UBC laws.

          Do you mean to conflate that 90% of the people want more gun control?  The polls don't say that.

        •  BTW regarding the newtown parents... (1+ / 0-)
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          I feel they're being used.

          •  Soon all the parents who lost children to guns (1+ / 0-)
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            will join them.

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            by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 01:04:40 PM PDT

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          •  Adam Walsh was murdered 1981. (1+ / 0-)
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            His dad didn't get a law until 2006.

            We have 20 parents fighting on this one.

            The Code Adam program for helping lost children in department stores is named in Walsh's memory. The U.S. Congress passed the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act on July 25, 2006, and President Bush signed it into law on July 27, 2006.
            They aren't going away or being used any more than Adam Walsh's dad went away or was being used.

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            by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 01:09:55 PM PDT

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            •  So in your opinnion.... (1+ / 0-)
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              Firearm owners are in the same moral category as child kidnappers/molesters?

              They caught the guy who murdered Adam, but botched the trial.

              As a result, the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act made it illegal to be male right?  Because it was a guy who did that to poor Adam, and using your logic akin to gun owners all men are just as guilty as the one who killed Adam?

              Such tortured logic!

              •  You are off to the races again. NO. (1+ / 0-)
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                What I am saying is that parents of murdered children don't give up. Even if it takes 20 years.

                I don't understand why you think I think you are so bad. The laws I want - you wouldn't even notice.

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                by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 10:18:24 PM PDT

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              •  You are so hard to talk to. We were discussing (1+ / 0-)
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                parents of murdered children. All of the sudden I am calling you a murder molester. I can barely keep up.

                All I am asking is that the people who own guns control their guns. You do. I am not talking to you or about you. If all gun owners were like you, we would not be having this conversation.

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                by 88kathy on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 12:02:17 AM PDT

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