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  •  And like I've told you before... (2+ / 0-)

    Mr I-broke-the-law-carrying-into-a-theme-park... broke the law!  Thats not childish.  thats criminal.

    There are already laws in place to deal with your strawman.

    •  The right of the people to bear arms shall not be (0+ / 0-)

      infringed. Oppsie is understood. Haw haw haw that was close.

      Lista was asked to leave the property for the rest of the day, and the gun was confiscated for safe keeping. He was told he could pick it up from the sheriff's office evidence department.

      The sheriff's office said the case was closed.

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      by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 12:41:57 PM PDT

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      •  So, is your beef with me, or the Sheriff? (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't live in Florida, and I don't hold elected office.

        Is your problem that the Sheriff is not enforcing existing laws?  By golly, another law ought to fix that, right?  I mean, you have a sheriff selectively enforcing laws, you maybe with a new law, you might get lucky with him enforcing it, right?

        •  My beef with you is your commas, semi-colons (1+ / 0-)
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          and periods.

          Your innocence about laws. Your name calling - straw man. Your spouting that my straw man was just so weak because of all those 'laws' that don't exist.

          Gun owners always have a way out. 'It's not me.' 'It's not MY fault.' Right up until the time the 2 yo old is bleeding out on the living room floor. Then it's oopsie that was tragic.

          It makes me angry and I can barely speak civilly.

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          by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 12:59:16 PM PDT

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        •  Currently a misdemeanor mostly ignored which is (2+ / 0-)
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          why I campaign for a felony.

          1. Felony failure to secure a deadly weapon regardless of outcome, loss of privilege to own a gun for a period of years.

          2. Felony 'accidental' discharge of a deadly weapon regardless of outcome, loss of privilege to own a gun for a period of years.

          And the Gun parTEA toters call me every name in the book.

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          by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 01:03:00 PM PDT

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          •  a few flaws in logic... (1+ / 0-)
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            1. Felony failure to secure a deadly weapon regardless of outcome, loss of privilege to own a gun for a period of years.
            This will never happen because under your law, a weapon, even though it's properly secured, leads to a felony.  Furthermore, in some areas, (like Chicago and Rockford) felonies are so politicized that ADA and ASA's cannot lodge a felony charge without direction from the actual DA/SA.  The will simply isn't there.
            2. Felony 'accidental' discharge of a deadly weapon regardless of outcome, loss of privilege to own a gun for a period of years.
            Most localities have laws pertaining to discharge period.  There are no 'accidental' discharge laws within city limits, any discharge is a crime (self defense is an affirmative defense against this charge).  When you're out of the city limits, discharge isn't a crime as long as you're more then 400m from another dwelling.
            •  You might be confusing a felony that has prison (1+ / 0-)
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              associated. These felonies do not.

              The will is there.

              You're talking about misdemeanor nod nod wink wink laws. Since 12-14 I have been astounded with the sloppy gun handling tolerated by those who know their way around guns. Each new revelation of this lackadaisical gun responsibility leaves me barely able to maintain a civil tongue.

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              by 88kathy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 11:59:15 PM PDT

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