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  •  I'm becoming more and more aware! (1+ / 0-)
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    Bob Love

    -thanks to the comments here, that is! (I'm not complaining about them, either.)

    Please note that I didn't post this with intentions to promote this new party; it's simply an "article" I wanted to write about it (having met the interviewee a few times, and having supported his Dem campaign for governor in '10), and that I've posted a few other places, too.

    Also, know that each of those two "founders" (one from each party) most likely lost last elections because of progressive stances (national healthcare plan, pro-choice).

    Here in conservative SC, not all Dems support those positions; some of those that do are afraid of being publicly identified with those positions; those positions are, then, overlooked.

    We also have "fusion candidacy" - only a handful of states do this (endorsed by multiple parties, appear on the ballots separately under each party name). This lets voters remind candidates of more specific issues that got them their votes. (It also gives GOP voters an avenue to vote for a Dem candidate without actually pushing the D button.)

    One such fusion party here in SC that I support is Working Families - its centered on labor rights, education and healthcare. The candidates is co-endorses get an average of 12 percent of their vote under the WF name (and that 12 percent comes from otherwise GOP supporters).

    •  You could update the diary (4+ / 0-)

      making it crystal clear that you are not pro this party, just informing people of it.

      I doubt that would work tho', your promotion of it rings too loud in the body of the diary.

      Best to delete, IMO.

      "Humidity built the snowman. Sunshine brought him down" John Prine

      by high uintas on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 09:06:27 PM PDT

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      •  I disagree. I appreciated the heads-up. (3+ / 0-)
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        JeffW, offgrid, Calamity Jean

        This party sound like melioristic nullity to me, but if it gains momentum I'll be informed, not taken by surprise.

        Frankly I think all third parties suck, but I want to be aware of them.

        "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

        by Bob Love on Sun Jun 16, 2013 at 09:33:18 PM PDT

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        •  what about 3rd party fusion? (1+ / 0-)
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          In the few states that allow "fusion," third party endorsements are often the only way some candidates can get elected.

          In South Carolina, for example, you can be Santa Claus and still lose to a Republican, even if that Republican is Son of Satan, and simply because many here won't vote Dem under any circumstance.

          Having your name appear twice on the ballots, though - that second appearance being for the 3rd party - can be a big help, because it gives those GOP-favoring voters an avenue to support the Dem without pushing the Dem button.

          It works, too - candidates endorsed by the progressive Working Families Party in SC get 12 percent of their total votes from that 3rd party nomination. and get the wins, too.

          •  I do understand the difficulty (1+ / 0-)
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            of a deep red state. I live in Utah. Thank you for the update, I will remove my hr.

            I'm not the font of all wisdom but IMO a diary about the fusion idea, where opinions are welcomed to be tossed around would get a more positive reception.

            No "blurb" about another party, leave it out. You could mention, but nothing that appears to be an endorsement.

            "Humidity built the snowman. Sunshine brought him down" John Prine

            by high uintas on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 07:14:35 AM PDT

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      •  thanks for the tip (0+ / 0-)

        I've taken your suggestion to update the diary.

    •  I hope you're also aware. . . (0+ / 0-)

      . . that South Carolina is a crazy assed teabagger state. A state hopelessly lost in wingnuttery.

      •  oh, I'm aware, alright (0+ / 0-)

        SC elects not just neocons, but neoconfederates, too - one state rep in particular constantly alludes to secession. The GOP here is nothing more than a money-laundering scheme amongst its incumbents. It elects party members who pocket campaign funds for personal use - who get caught in cemeteries with 18 year old prostitutes - who admit in court that they molested teenaged stepdaughters - who are arrested and convicted of drug smuggling - who are convicted of tax evasion - who shame the state by using taxpayer funds to pay for international adultery ....

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