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  •  So we should encourage silence? (4+ / 0-)

    Should we just roll over a cite fear and loathing panic driven legislation as our reasoning?
    Secret programs
    Secret courts
    Lead to secret laws

    As for whistle-blowers and the administration
    http://www.nytimes.com/...

    "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

    by LaFeminista on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 08:34:22 AM PDT

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    •  This is secrecy we voted for! (0+ / 0-)

      Intelligence gathering is, by its nature, secret! I really dislike the FISA court, but I'm surprised that you think an institution founded when Obama was 17 is indicative of his true colors. That's absurd.

      Look, I'm glad we're having a debate now, but this emotionalism without any acknowledgement of the legality and benefits of this kind of surveillance is just as useless as the secrecy around the FISA court. These issues are amongst the most serious we consider as a society. We need to consider them rationally.

      If you're of the opinion that secrecy is, in and of itself, abusive them I'm sorry but I'm frankly uninterested in whatever else you have to say on the subject.

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