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  •  My problem is where does the 'position' end and (5+ / 0-)

    the 'person' begin?

    What I mean is this: from everything I'm hearing it sounds as if Snowden—who is, after all, a human being—has done things that we should praise him for, AND things we should not be praising.

    But I agree that there are certain concepts (e.g., the NSA conducting vast dragnets on all Americans in secret) that we should all be opposed to.

    All I'm trying to say is: I still have no idea how I feel about Snowden himself.

    We don't want our country back, we want our country FORWARD. --Eclectablog

    by Samer on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 09:09:49 AM PDT

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    •  that is a very good point (3+ / 0-)
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      Victor Ward, milkbone, Samer

      focusing on the person is a red herring.  It is the issue that matters.

      However, I think a lot of us are focusing on the issues.

      Touch all that arises with a spirit of compassion

      by Mindful Nature on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 09:32:48 AM PDT

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      •  It's not a red herring (3+ / 0-)
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        Samer, Lost and Found, raboof

        it's what the oligarchs want you to do. It's making Snowden (or Assange, or Manning, or Greenwald) the issue, which is easily done, rather than what they say.

        Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

        by milkbone on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 10:15:08 AM PDT

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