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  •  And then we allow (14+ / 0-)

    the subject of her clothing to be raised in court.

    I think not.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    Who is twigg?

    by twigg on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 12:14:05 PM PDT

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    •  Not necessarily (6+ / 0-)
      teaching women and girls to be prepared and cautious
      Whatever the commenter might have meant, that statement does not say anything about clothing.  In fact, I would take such an idea a bit farther and suggest that not only women and girls, but men and boys are taught to be prepared and cautious. Not just about rape, but about violence against their person or property in general.  The guidance really needn't differ between them to be useful. Be alert and aware of surroundings. May not be a good idea to be in some places at late hours alone. Don't be flashing your valuables among strangers - Mr Nappe is far more likely to get mugged because he just has to stop and reorganize the bills in his gold money clip smack in the middle of the crowd waiting to get into the bathroom, than I am to be raped because of showing too much thigh at the bar.

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 12:40:12 PM PDT

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      •  Anybody raising or teaching children (6+ / 0-)

        needs to teach them about various forms of safety and precautions. What is at issue here is the way that it is specifically singled out in discussions of rape. When there is a story about someone getting hit by a car, you don't usually see people wondering if they stopped to look both ways, or were wearing bright clothing to make them clearly visible.

        •  I still don't understand your disagreement. (2+ / 0-)
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          I DO teach my children to look both ways. I also will teach them to drive safely.  And expect drivers to look out for children.

          It would be foolish to only use one approach.

          "Jersey_Boy" was taken.

          by New Jersey Boy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 12:54:35 PM PDT

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          •  As a parent that is your job. (0+ / 0-)

            Once your children have reached an age to be responsible for their actions, it is not my job to run guilt trips on them whenever something bad happens to them. It is a question of context. To assume that all women must be constantly reminded of generally obvious things is what the objections are about. They may not have been your intention, but it was what was happening in the other diary to generated the need for this diary.

            This is an issue that has become a very sensitive point for a lot of people.

            •  I'm talking about college first years. (2+ / 0-)
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              cotterperson, Cassandra Waites

              My controversial opinion is that we should be teaching both men and women simultaneously.

              Which is being done at colleges all over the country.

              "Jersey_Boy" was taken.

              by New Jersey Boy on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 01:11:02 PM PDT

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              •  Judging by the number of rapes on campus and (1+ / 0-)
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                the failure of the schools to assist in prosecuting many of those rapes, doesn't sound like they're doing a very good job.

                "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

                by gustynpip on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 06:07:48 AM PDT

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