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  •  Well.... (4+ / 0-)
    Marie Antoinette, when told the peasants had no bread, said let them eat cake instead.
    Is 'let them eat cake' similar to 'let them eat cat food'?
    Sad for her that the rabble of her time didn't have the epic somnambulance of TV to lull them away from reality.

    I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose....AKA Engine Nighthawk - don't even ask!

    by Lilyvt on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 11:32:14 AM PDT

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    •  Hmmmm... FWIW (4+ / 0-)

      But did Marie-Antoinette really say those infuriating words? Not according to historians. Lady Antonia Fraser, author of a biography of the French queen, believes the quote would have been highly uncharacteristic of Marie-Antoinette, an intelligent woman who donated generously to charitable causes and, despite her own undeniably lavish lifestyle, displayed sensitivity towards the poor population of France.

      That aside, what’s even more convincing is the fact that the “Let them eat cake” story had been floating around for years before 1789. It was first told in a slightly different form about Marie-Thérèse, the Spanish princess who married King Louis XIV in 1660. She allegedly suggested that the French people eat “la croûte de pâté” (or the crust of the pâté). Over the next century, several other 18th-century royals were also blamed for the remark, including two aunts of Louis XVI. Most famously, the philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau included the pâté story in his “Confessions” in 1766, attributing the words to “a great princess” (probably Marie-Thérèse). Whoever uttered those unforgettable words, it was almost certainly not Marie-Antoinette, who at the time Rousseau was writing was only 10 years old—three years away from marrying the French prince and eight years from becoming queen.

      •  Oh well.... (2+ / 0-)
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        She lost her head anyway.

        I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose....AKA Engine Nighthawk - don't even ask!

        by Lilyvt on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 11:50:39 AM PDT

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      •  Well think of it as a sort of midrash (0+ / 0-)
      •  Not to mention the apocryphal (3+ / 0-)
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        story about the Christmas she gave her children:

        Wishing to give her children yet another lesson of beneficence [during the long and severe winter of 1783-84], she desired me on New Year’s eve to get from Paris, as in other years, all the fashionable playthings, and have them spread out in her closet. Then taking her children by the hand, she showed them all the dolls and mechanical toys which were ranged there, and told them that she had intended to give them some handsome New Year’s gifts, but that the cold made the poor so wretched that all her money was spent in blankets and clothes to protect them from the rigour of the season, and in supplying them with bread; so that this year they would only have the pleasure of looking at the new playthings.
        Also, from Wikipedia:
        Marie Antoinette was determined that her daughter should not grow up to be as haughty as her husband's unmarried aunts. She often invited children of lower rank to come and dine with Marie-Thérèse and encouraged the child to give her toys to the poor. In contrast to her image as a materialistic queen who ignored the plight of the poor, Marie Antoinette attempted to teach her daughter about the sufferings of others.
        Frankly, Marie Antoinette received a lot of undeserved bad press over the centuries. She was no saint in life, but she did her best to be a caring and giving person - and not just to her immediate circles of friends and family.

        "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

        by Australian2 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 12:19:14 PM PDT

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    •  hunger tends to trump that (0+ / 0-)

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