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  •  "Redskin" is a slur. (9+ / 0-)

    And seems to me, to be by far, the most offensive team name in America. As Empty Vessel pointed out above, I think there's a real difference in taking a name that's reflective of your community (as is the case with Notre Dame), and the outright use of a slur by people who have no connection to the people being slurred.

    The argument that the team is "honoring" Native Americans is absurd given the history of the team and its original owner. But even if you wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt on that point, why honor people with a slur?

    •  The name was given in *honor* of their coach (1+ / 0-)
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      Who at the time claimed the heritage of Sioux Indian. I'm sure they didn't intend a racial slur toward their own coach.

      That being said, his coach's status of being an American Indian was been challenged. Still, the intent behind the name was not offense.

      Again, you guys are applying today's standard of intolerance toward stereotyping to days long since past, which such things were not taboo.

      Please proceed, Governor.

      by USArmyParatrooper on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 06:22:09 PM PDT

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      •  It wasn't just challenged (8+ / 0-)
        Dietz's Indian heritage was first contested in 1916 after former neighbors who settled on the Pacific Coast heard he was posing as an Indian. In December 1918 the Federal Bureau of Investigation looked into his heritage after he fraudulently registered for the draft as a "Non-Citizen Indian" with an allotment. The Bureau found he had taken on the identity of James One Star, an Oglala man of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation 12 years his senior who had disappeared in 1894. Dietz also falsely claimed he was the head of an American film company that produced propaganda films for the war.

        Dietz divorced De Cora in November 1918, charging her with abandonment. It is not clear how much she knew about his true identity. She died six days after his indictment.

        Dietz was tried in Spokane, Washington in June of 1919 for the first offense. One Star's sister, Sallie Eaglehorse, testified after seeing him for the first time at the trial that Dietz was definitely not her brother.

        It was repeatedly shown that he faked his indian heritage in order to dodge the WWI draft.   More importantly, this is one of the reasons why Native Americans are more offended.. a man who faked having Indian Heritage basically said "yeah, Redskin is cool" when he wasn't native American and gave them justification to take the name because he had NO weight on it at all, he had only used his fake heritage to dodge the draft.

        He used Native Americans to commit fraud and mocked them again by basically lending the slur to a team.

        Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

        by Chris Reeves on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 06:33:56 PM PDT

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      •  Even if it WAS good faith, it's not now.... (1+ / 0-)
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        Again, you guys are applying today's standard of intolerance toward stereotyping to days long since past, which such things were not taboo.
        That's probably fair. But now that we know better, shouldn't we change the name? If Dan Snyder changes the name, he makes a gesture of tolerance and modernity. I doubt any fans of the Washington team would renounce their loyalty if they took a different name.

        If I was the owner, I'd change the name to the Washington Grays, which could genuinely honor the Negro National League baseball players of color that were denied the right to participate in the Major Leagues due to the racist attitudes of people like George Preston Marshall.

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