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  •  Oh, for heaven's sake. (4+ / 0-)
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    I am totally on the side of those who think Washington should change its team theme, but that's the most ludicrous of all the many etymologies that have been circulated for the term "redskin". Nobody is actually sure where it came from, but I promise you it wasn't what you described.

    Don't believe everything you read.

    To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

    by UntimelyRippd on Mon Jun 17, 2013 at 06:49:39 PM PDT

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    •  Actually, I saw that etymology tied to a (0+ / 0-)

      specific letter advocating such bounties by a specific guy from several hundred years ago recently.  'Ludicrous' etymologies don't usually come with such specific references.  I'll see if I can't dig up the reference again.

    •  Ok, nevermind, I found a mention (0+ / 0-)
      Particularly cited is England’s 1755 Phips Proclamation, a declaration of war against the non-British allied Penobscot Nation stating: “…For every Scalp of such Female Indian or Male Indian under the Age of twelve years that Shall be killed and brought in as Evidence of their being killed as aforesaid, Twenty pounds.” As appalling and emotionally appealing as it is, the Phips Proclamation doesn’t include the words “red skins” in it.
      So I guess you're right, that particular etymology doesn't play out, despite it being used by some.
      •  Generally speaking, the more horrific and (0+ / 0-)

        appalling a proposed etymology for a slur, the more improbable that it is true. No, homosexuals aren't called "faggots" because the English used to burn them to get the fire hot enough for the witches. Etc.

        To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

        by UntimelyRippd on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 11:00:01 AM PDT

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