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  •  Don't know about (2+ / 0-)
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    Victor Ward, kyril

         all the other Libertarians, anarcho or otherwise, I like to consider myself a pragmatic libertarian. My objection to the ACA, isn't that I don't think I'll get sick(I know I and almost everybody else will) or that I object to the government being involved. I object to the idea of being forced to buy an overpriced product from a corporation whose goal isn't my health, but their profit.

        I am a Libertarian, I believe the government that govern the best governs the least, but I am also pragmatic about it. There are things, that can only be accomplished by coming together as a group, as a society if you will. Police, military, education, environmental protections and others. If we as a society decide something needs to be provided by society(government), like say healthcare, it should be the job of society through its tool government to provide it.

       I am a libertarian, I think government should have very little say so when it comes to mom and pop's corner store. However when a business becomes a corporation, it gain various advantages and protection that mom and pop don't get, They (the corporations) need to have more control and oversight.

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." T. Roosevelt

    by Lowgun on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 06:21:39 AM PDT

    •  That's not an unreasonable philosophy, (3+ / 0-)

      and your particular version of libertarianism is one I can coexist with.  Unfortunately, the ones like Rand Paul are way out in the economic laissez-faire woowoo and not coming back anytime soon.  So you're part of a tribe of one right now.

      I do think mom and pop stores do need a certain minimum level of regulation, though.  Like minimum wage.  Like not selling products that make people sick or kill them.  Like not violating written contracts the way health insurance companies do (and still do and get away with it.)

      •  Whoa! Now you're starting to ... (1+ / 0-)
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        serendipityisabitch

        ... talk about a nanny state. Actually, I'm cool with all of those regulations and thousands more dealing with health insurance, overtime, working conditions, safety, taxes, federally-insured loans, time clock regulations, sexual harassment laws, worker's compensation, specific trade-related regulations and codes, holiday pay, vacation pay, vacations, and on and on. Much like the grid of thousands of laws that ensure that employers don't take advantage of workers we now have on the books, but better. Because you know that many moms and  pops would as soon screw over their employee and keep all of the money for themselves.

        I would tip you, but the man took away my tips.

        by Tortmaster on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 07:43:21 AM PDT

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      •  Make that a tribe of two, at least. (2+ / 0-)
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        serendipityisabitch, Dumbo

        Although I usually describe myself as a "left-libertarian" or "civil libertarian" social democrat, Lowgun and I could share a political party with less friction than your average two random Democrats.

        I object to the idea of being forced to buy an overpriced product from a corporation whose goal isn't my health, but their profit.
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        If we as a society decide something needs to be provided by society(government), like say healthcare, it should be the job of society through its tool government to provide it.
        are perfect summations of my feelings on the matter.

        (I'm with you on the regulation of small businesses, though.)

        "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

        by kyril on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 01:01:35 PM PDT

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