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    The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be,  secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.  

    - Patrick Henry

    Government ought to be all outside and no inside. . . . Everybody knows that corruption thrives in secret places, and avoids public places, and we believe it a fair presumption that secrecy means impropriety.

    - Woodrow Wilson

    Secrecy is for losers. . . . It is time to dismantle government secrecy, this most persuasive of Cold War-era regulations. It is time to begin building the supports for the era of openness that is already upon us.

    - Senator Patrick Moynihan, Secrecy: The American Experience, 1998

    We must remain vigilant against agency's like the NSA, not give them free reign:


    The NSA used that freedom, according to a Congressional investigator who discovered SHAMROCK, to establish secret facilities in several cities, including New York, San Francisco, Washington DC, and San Antonio. In each city, NSA employees would go to the major telegraph companies and copy telegrams, with the companies’ permission but without warrants.

    As Bamford describes it, agents would “bring [the telegrams] to an office masquerading as a television tape processing company. There they would use a machine to duplicate all the computer tapes containing the telegrams, and, hours later, return the original tapes to the company.”

    This program, conducted illegally yet with full cooperation with the US government and the communication giants of the day, went on for 30 years. It didn’t end until 1975, when the secret finally came out thanks to the Church Committee.

    •  Forgot the link. (2+ / 0-)
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      poligirl, kyril

      No shock, no surprise for those of us who understand that there will always be agencies like the NSA that want to operate above the law.  Secrecy is a a powerful drug for these agencies.

      As citizens, it is our duty to ensure that they are not allowed to operate outside of the law.

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