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  •  As the President (6+ / 0-)

    said again last nite in the interview with Charlie Rose, we have got to make the best effort to balance secruity and privacy.

    If a bomber had hit the NYSE, the loss in wealth would be measured in the tens of billions in pension funds and retirement accounts.
    The ripple effect of that affects every american as we saw in 2001 and 2008.

    Build even more oversight into the system,fine,but I have yet to be convinced that I want my mom to get on a plane with no security measures at the gate or that these programs threaten my privacy beyond my personal tolerance.

    •  Maybe Way Off Base, IMO (10+ / 0-)
      If a bomber had hit the NYSE, the loss in wealth would be measured in the tens of billions in pension funds and retirement accounts.

      The ripple effect of that affects every American as we saw in 2001 and 2008.

      Look, any terrorist bombing is and would be tragic, no matter where it happens, but if you believe that bombing the NYSE would cause what you loosely imply, then you are clueless, it seems, about how and where electronic "wealth" data is actually stored, and the existence of off-site redundant back up systems to protect that data.

      Now, if you mean that that stockholders would panic and sell, that's a different spin, and only shows the weakness of stocks as stored wealth for pension funds and retirement accounts.

      Just be clear...

      "Treat others as you would like them to treat you." -St. Luke 6: 31 (NEB) Christians are given a tough assignment here: Love the people you don't even like...

      by paz3 on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 12:35:43 PM PDT

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    •  It isn't about you, personally (3+ / 0-)

      It's about us and our Constitution. The Constitution is meant to have primacy over claimed safety concerns.

      The President's oath of office is a clue: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

      Every federal employee takes a similar oath when they're hired. If we allow the Constitution to take second fiddle to the wishes of people in the government, then we've lost our Republic.

      Do you really believe that general who claimed that their spying program prevented fifty terrorist attacks? I don't. Clapper lied about what they're doing and hasn't faced any retribution.

      "Societies strain harder and harder to sustain the decadent opulence of the ruling class, even as it destroys the foundations of productivity and wealth." — Chris Hedges

      by Crider on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 12:56:11 PM PDT

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    •  I haven't seen the whole interview yet, (2+ / 0-)
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      but what he said this morning on the CBS morning show did not explain how gathering all this information is Constitutional.

      As the President (4+ / 0-)

      said again last nite in the interview with Charlie Rose, we have got to make the best effort to balance secruity and privacy.

    •  If someone did bomb the NYSE, (1+ / 0-)
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      a lot of stock traders and a bunch of regular employees would get hurt or killed. Not a damned thing would happen to the wealth that gets traded with chits and waives and involves not a single actual coin or dollar bill. Which themselves hold no intrinsic value either. The proceedings are backed up, it's all bits and bytes, none of it is "destroyed."

      But criminals do plot and sometimes accomplish criminal deeds. So the NYSE should maybe hire some more guards, bomb-proof its computer room(s). There have always been criminals. They don't frighten me enough to surrender my rights and/or liberties.

    •  And worst of all Obama would have lost (0+ / 0-)

      his most generous donors.

      So yeah, that would have been a gigantic disaster.

      And kinda puts his anti-terror efforts in a new light.

      •  You mean (0+ / 0-)

        the University of California?  They(employees) were the #1 contributors to Obama in 2008.

        I know....facts don't matter...the target must go down.

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