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  •  This is one board who (seemingly) made a poor (12+ / 0-)

    cowardly decision.  It says nothing per se about public schools in general.

    But I agree that this is a sad, bad story.

    ...Son, those Elephants always look out for themselves. If you happen to get a crumb or two from their policies, it's a complete coincidence. -Malharden's Dad

    by slowbutsure on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 03:55:24 PM PDT

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    •  Not So Sure. I Am A HUGE Public School (13+ / 0-)

      fan. A good friend of mine went from teaching, well he ran the school as the Principal, in a lower income town to teaching at a more upscale primary school. Private. He was sick of the BS.

      This dude is a RAGING liberal and he just couldn't take it anymore. He couldn't fire a teacher that couldn't teach. And as he won't told me things are FUBAR. He is 6'9 and kids would stand him down and he couldn't do anything about it.

      I don't like private schools, or well I don't mind if they don't get public funds, but my gosh this guy didn't wimp out.

      •  Perhaps a real teacher will school me (which (10+ / 0-)

        would be great), but I am pretty sure it does not matter how big a teacher or Principal is - the kids know you can't touch them, so who cares?

        1. You need a 'teacher face' so that the kids will know right away when they get it wrong.  Sort of like using a clicker to let a dog know when they get it right.
        2.  You need to earn their respect so they care about pleasing you.  Part of that is setting clear expectations and consequences and not shaming kids in public.
        3.  Teachers that can no longer teach can be 'counseled out'.  It takes time and effort, but not a bunch of $$$.
        4.  Private schools do not perform better on the average than public schools.  They can throw out any kids that do not fit their model and they do not have to take special needs students.

        ...Son, those Elephants always look out for themselves. If you happen to get a crumb or two from their policies, it's a complete coincidence. -Malharden's Dad

        by slowbutsure on Tue Jun 18, 2013 at 05:04:06 PM PDT

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        •  I've been having some interesting experiences with (5+ / 0-)

          students transferring from private to our public school.  This has been happening on an increasing basis, and there seems to be 3 reasons:

          - Families can no longer afford the private tuition due to the economy.
          - Our school is pretty terrific: Fantastic music program with both a ban and full orchestra option, great arts & culture education (arts, music appreciation, lit, drama, dance classes) and oh, great test results [see arts program IMO ... and I'm a science teacher]
          - To get special ed, ADHD, and just a little different student services they need and away from bullying that they definitely do NOT deserve

          The students coming in from the private schools are woefully behind in science compared to our students, and I mean YEARS behind, and I don't mean just in content.  They don't have lab skills.  In 8th grade, our students are learning to use fire and serious acids in chem labs.  They learn aseptic technique in bio labs.  In physics, we don't even have to go over how to use various measurement tools including all sorts of types of scales, stop watches, thermometers.

          The private school students coming in don't know the difference between a flask and beaker, can't measure the mass (or really understand what that is), use a microscope and on and on.  I've asked them to describe the look of their science rooms, and up to the middle school level, they don't even have lab rooms.  It's gotten to the point where I have these students stay after during their first couple of weeks after transfer for lab skill tutoring, or they would not be safe to do labs.

          It may just be the private schools in our area, but it has me seriously wondering about this whole "private schools are so much better" stuff.  I'd put a student earning a D in my class up against ANY same grade level private school student any day, and I am confident my student would demonstrate mastery in science skills and knowledge in any area.  

          Plutocracy (noun) Greek ploutokratia, from ploutos wealth; 1) government by the wealthy; 2) 21st c. U.S.A.; 3) 22nd c. The World

          by bkamr on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:55:53 AM PDT

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          •  That was my experience. (5+ / 0-)

            Took my daughter out of Catholic school at the end of second grade.  While she was ahead in reading, she was behind in math.  She had to work very hard in third grade to get to where she needed to be.  Now starting 6th grade, she's in top, top of her class in math as well.

            "Since when did obeying corporate power become patriotic." Going the Distance

            by Going the Distance on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 07:07:13 AM PDT

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