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  •  I find this diary to be a shameful attempt to (3+ / 0-)
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    WHITE-wash history.

    No thanks.

    This is lying by omission.

    Rhode Island was against it because of concern over the amount of influence it would have as such a small state and New York and New Hampshire were also leaning against ratification due to anti-Federalist views.
    Rhode Island put the constitution up for a popular vote and 3 times it failed. WHY?  Because there were no protections for individual rights.

    In New York stated as such in their ratification documents:

    http://www.usconstitution.net/...

    and that those clauses in the said Constitution, which declare that Congress shall not have or exercise certain powers, do not imply that Congress is entitled to any powers not given by the said Constitution; but such clauses are to be construed either as exceptions to certain specified powers, or as inserted merely for greater caution.

    And New Hampshire made that perfectly clear in their list of amendments they wanted included:
       XII. Congress shall never disarm any citizen, unless such as are or have been in actual rebellion.
    You see Virginia, New York, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, North Carolina, South Carolina and Massachusetts included in their ratification documents a list of amendments they expected to be added to the constitution.  Their conditional approval of said "piece of paper" was that the Congress would address these things within a reasonable amount of time.

    When Congress was finally forced into action on these "Bill of Rights" their debates on each amendment reveals FACTS you fail to even mention:

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    From Pg 742

        The amendments reported are a declaration of rights; the people are secure in them, whether we declare them or not;"

    From Pg 778

        "A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms".

        This declaration of rights, I take it, is intended to secure the people against the mal-administration of the Government; if we could suppose that, in all cases, the rights of the people would be attended to, the occasion for guards of this kind would be removed. Now, I am apprehensive, sir, that this clause would give an opportunity to the people in power to destroy the constitution itself. They can declare who are those religiously scrupulous, and prevent them from bearing arms.

        "What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. Now, it must be evident, that, under this provision, together with their other powers, Congress could take such measures with respect to a militia, as to make a standing army necessary.

        Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."

    The final point I'll make.  The Constitution wasn't written in a vacuum.  The Bill of Rights, including the 2nd A, weren't added to protect slavery BUT every American.  You seem to miss the point that yes, some old men wrote up "that damn piece of paper" or said this or that in a private letter or diary entry but WE THE PEOPLE decided it wasn't good enough and we AMENDED it.

    Ultimately, we can do it again, if WE so chose.

    Besides, do I need to mention that 42 out of 50 States have that right defined specifically as an individual right?

    -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

    by gerrilea on Wed Jun 19, 2013 at 06:39:46 AM PDT

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