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  •  the immigration bill, alas, is shit (2+ / 0-)

    It consists of a decades-long enormously expensive process that most people won't be able to complete even if they don't die of old age first.

    It gives everything--but it gives nothing.

    It deserves to die.  Maybe next time we'll get serious. If we want to give people citizenship, then fucking give them citizenship.  Don't make them jump through a decade of idiotic hoops first.

    •  Let the Rs implode over it. (2+ / 0-)
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      LilithGardener, ahumbleopinion

      And any legislation, once enacted, can be amended and improved. It's past time we acknowledged the need for this reform. If it takes a small step to start, then it's a start to a process long overdue.

    •  Not even sure it'll pass the Senate (1+ / 0-)
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      The Senate just voted today on John Thune's amendment to build a border fence (To require the completion of the 350 miles of reinforced, double-layered fencing described in section 102(b)(1)(A) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 before registered provisional immigrant status may be granted and to require the completion of 700 miles of such fencing before the status of registered provisional immigrants may be adjusted to permanent resident status.)

      Luckily, it failed 39 to 54.  (7 were not in attendance)  The 4 Republicans from the Gang of Eight voted against it.  The only non-gang Republican to do so was Lisa Murkowski.  Conservadems Joe Manchin and Mark Pryor both voted FOR the border fence.  If we assumed that all 100 were there for the vote, the tally would have likely been 43 to 57.  If you have 43 senators supporting a border fence, I'm not sure if you have 60 votes for a bill, even one as conservative, punitive, and "border security" heavy as the Gang of 8's.

      Just as was the case with gun control, Dems try to set the bar low and concede a lot to have a "bipartisan" deal and won't have the 60 votes to show.  

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