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  •  There isn'a "defense" in any warrant request. (3+ / 0-)
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    All search and arrest warrants are issued by courts that hear only from the government.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 07:04:12 AM PDT

    •  There isn't a defense in a Grand Jury (4+ / 0-)

      The big difference is that eventually Grand Jury data can become public, right?

      I think i'm looking for some balance between "we decided and you'll never get to review: you must trust us" and some level of post decision public disclosure or at least empowered review by a "broader circle" of people not invested in the Intelligence Industrial Complex within some regularized time limit.

      When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

      by Egalitare on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 07:44:31 AM PDT

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      •  The secrecy issue is a legit point. (1+ / 0-)
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        The "no defense" argument isn't.

        I can understand the need to keep FISC proceedings secret, but that means there needs to be a very robust system of oversight built into the system. If it's not the public, then either Congress or some kind of Inspector General type of arrangement, or something.

        As of now, there doesn't seem to be anyone looking over their shoulder.

        Art is the handmaid of human good.

        by joe from Lowell on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 07:50:46 AM PDT

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