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  •  Exactly. But then if people get some of what they (1+ / 0-)
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    want and stop protesting doesn't it defeat the whole 'worldwide revolution is coming tomorrow' idea?

    •  that's kinda the point behind it, isn't it (2+ / 0-)
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      But then, it's a strategy that fails in the long term anyway. People are not purely economic creatures, and even if they live comfortable economic lives, they still want control of their own decisions and destiny--things they do not have in a corporate world.

      So eventually the non-economic aspirations lead to the same place as the economic ones do-----real democracy.

      •  Well, some of the 'stuff people want' tended to (1+ / 0-)
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        be more democracy. At least expanded voting rights. The trend will probably continue although it will likely be focused on issues other than voting rights.

      •  once again, Mazlow's hierarchy is helpful (1+ / 0-)
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        Once economic security is achieved, people begin moving up the pyramid, seeking "belonging", "self-esteem" and "self-actualization" as fully-participating members of the social whole.

        And the corporate system, where a handful of people make all the social and economic decisions, is utterly incapable of providing those things. The corporate system itself is set up specifically so unelected wealth-holders get to make all the decisions.  The only way people can become self-actualized is if they themselves are also decision-makers, whether it is in the social, economic or political sphere.  We call that "democracy". Corporations have none. People will want decision-making power within the corporations.  The corporations want nothing of the sort.

        The inevitable end result is that economic and social decision-makers must all become freely-elected democratic positions, just as political decision-makers are.  Democracy outside the workplace, democracy inside the workplace.

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