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  •  I work in engineering (0+ / 0-)

    Results is all that matters in my line of work, and documentable results that you can show to someone.

    In fact, I routinely demand that my stuff be audited and tested by someone who isn't me to prove that it works correctly and that I'm not making mistakes because I'm too close to the problem.

    I have a consistent "bias" against organizations that oppose standardized testing because standardized testing is the only way other than "trust us" that you can be sure that your child is really learning math/reading/etc. Test scores tell all.

    If the teacher/school tells me a kid knows math, but they consistently fail math standardized tests, what does that tell me? Why would I believe the self-interested claims of the teacher and school? There was a study just recently that shows that when schools grade their own standardized essays, scores are higher than when essays are randomly handed out to be graded. Now, I'm not blaming schools or teachers or implying anything about them, but they're people and they respond to incentives like anyone else.

    We know that some don't test well,
    You're their teacher right? If they "don't read well", do you teach them to read? So if they "don't test well", sounds like it's time to teach them some very valuable and necessary test-taking skills.
    some get terribly anxious when faced with a test,
    Guess they'll fail their SATs then and get relegated to a second tier school because they couldn't get over their fear... or to put it less kindly, their teachers couldn't get them over their fear.

    These sound like (poor) excuses to me rather than the can-do attitude I expect from my employees. When I do an engineering job, I don't make a list of all the reasons why I can't do it then throw up my hands. I roll up my sleeves and get to work.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 01:52:08 PM PDT

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    •  and students are not engineering projects (1+ / 0-)
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      which is something you simply refuse to acknowledge

      there is fifty years of peer-reviewed research which makes clear that while teachers are the most important in-school factor, in school factors account for less than 1/3 of student performance.

      it is convenient to blame teachers for what are society's failings.  

      YOu want to see improved student performance?

      - make sure every child gets basic medical, vision, hearing, and dental care
      - make sure every student gets fed a basic nutritious diet outside of school
      - make sure every student is in a secure situation as to housing

      absent those basic needs being met, expecting school efforts to make up for all those deficits is criminally wrong

      that is NOT to say that those of us who teach do not make every effort

      but our efforts are insufficient.

      Unless and until America recognizes this fact:  22% of our children live in poverty and another 25% are not that far from poverty - we cannot expect our students to perform at the levels of other OECD nations.

      American schools with 10% or less poverty outperform EVERY NATION IN THE WORLD - including Finland, which has <4% children in poverty.

      Get the damn rich to pay their fair share of taxes for the benefits they receive and we can have the social support network that other nations provide for all their children.

      Then we can talk about academic performance.

      Except we won't have to, because it will change dramatically.

      But you don't want to hear that.

      And since you don't, PLEASE - stay the hell out of my diaries.

      "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

      by teacherken on Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 02:19:07 PM PDT

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