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  •  ah, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing......... (6+ / 0-)
    Section 5, Paragraph 2 specifically states that if they intercept domestic communications and think they have evidence of a crime, they can forward that communication to local law enforcement.  Without a warrant.
    I was reading the Guardian just as they posted this. But I didn't read it as my meter for bad news had been reached for today. I can only handle bits and pieces of it right now before I go out and buy pitchforks to hand out.

    "Who are these men who really run this land? And why do they run it with such a thoughtless hand?" David Crosby

    by allenjo on Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 02:47:27 PM PDT

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    •  So? That's standard 4th A law: cops are not (3+ / 0-)
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      required to ignore evidence of crime even if acquired by means later determined to be illegal or unconstitutional.  

      That's been 4th A law for over 100 years, at least.

      This is literally nothing new.

      •  The method is new (1+ / 0-)
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        100 years ago they couldn't push a button and read all our mail. They had to get a warrant and physically search our homes. Not any more, which means all electronic conversations are public.

        •  But this particular pt had nothing to with that. (0+ / 0-)

          It would be exactly the same if the cop stuck his ear to a cup against the wall of your house and illegally heard you about to murder someone.

          That is not to say there is a problem with the law not keeping up with technology, there clearly is.  But in our system, Congress gets first bite at that, and the courts then defer as much as possible to thier decisions.  Its thier way of respecting that whole representative government thing.

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