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  •  Can't speak for JoanMar but I would think that (6+ / 0-)

    the government's history of murdering black and brown people, committing genocide against indigenous people,  indefinitely detaining Japanese-Americans, and still executing and putting more black and brown people in jail than others, makes the idea that the NSA is listening in on communications, while outrageous, rather less so than the these other historical and contemporary actions.

    •  What the NSA is doing is a tool that makes all of (11+ / 0-)

      the things you list easier to do. In and of itself, targeting people this way does not cause them physical bodily harm. However, it certainly will aid the perpetrators when they want to commit such an atrocity, no matter who the target is.

      "If you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing!" (on a sign at a Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans)

      by ranger995 on Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 06:35:39 PM PDT

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    •  But it's so much more than anything (3+ / 0-)
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      that went before.

      Because there are now people who can pinpoint -- in real time -- "yes, this child is alone now." "Yes, these people will be out of the house for 12 hours." "Ah, there's the passwords to their accounts." "Oh, look she's flirting with so-and-so."

      It's every fucking move by almost every fucking person. Even in the worst days of the 1920s KKK heyday, Hoover's FBI,... nobody, but nobody, had that kind of surveillance on them. Martin Luther King, Fred Hampton; Marcus Garvey; Angela Davis were tailed and watched and tapped and snitched on, but not every fucking moment and detail of their lives.

      If you think this isn't a tool to be used against black people -- especially people organizing for rights -- that things are going to stay just as they were before and not be harder, you are missing the import of the event.

      PS: There's also a history of murdering working whites who organized in the US.

      Actual Democrats is the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats

      by Jim P on Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 08:48:30 PM PDT

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