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  •  I'm a "good" liberal too (6+ / 0-)

    Whatever that means.

    Yet I have no trouble wishing that this piece of human excrement gets to take that long walk to the execution chamber.

    He's a waste of perfectly good oxygen. Good riddance.

    •  Supporting the death penalty is not (2+ / 0-)
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      kyril, Lonely Texan

      a liberal position.  Sanctioning the state to kill citizens, while massively understandable in cases like this, is not a liberal position.

      •  One can be liberal and support the death penalty, (1+ / 0-)
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        there are some that just have no place in society, including prison.
           Issues evolve as do people and their opinions: gun control had always been a liberal position for example- now to even mention such a thing, even here on this supposed 'liberal progressive' site bring the wrath of who? The supposed 'liberal progressive gun lobby'?
           These clowns will be taken care of properly in prison, and no, I'm not condoning prison justice but the facts are that prison justice does exist and vile filth such as these two can and will be properly introduced to what that justice consists of.
            Just the way things are in prison, these two will have pure hell to deal with, even protective custody can only shelter someone so much.

        Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

        by teabaggerssuckbalz on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 04:31:52 AM PDT

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      •  Yeah, but no one is a "perfect" liberal (3+ / 0-)
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        CroneWit, historys mysteries, BachFan

        A "liberal" is a person who supports more liberal policies than conservative ones, not ALL of them.

      •  I'm not sure (0+ / 0-)

        I think I agree that liberals are compelling to be procedurally opposed to the death penalty: lingering uncertainties in fact, poor representation by counsel, ongoing racial bias throughout the system, etc.

        I'm less convinced that liberalism is necessarily substantively opposed to the death penalty.  Given a metaphysical certainty of guilt (or, more plausibly, an admission), does the state have the power to take life?

        I'm still opposed substantively, but I'm not sure that's a position all liberals need to take.  Democrats who blow off the procedural problems trouble me more.

        •  How I see it (1+ / 0-)
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          Lonely Texan

          Do we want all society to reflect the worst among us? Saying these people should be raped, beaten, killed, is understandable, but understandable emotional reactions are not the same as public policy.

          Public policy should be based on reflecting our best, not our worst.

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