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  •  Good summary (5+ / 0-)

    Helps those of us who can't be there, and can't listen in, feel we are getting part of the experience.

    On the issue of persuasion, I think some foundational work needs to be done to persuade many of the value of persuasion.  I see many comments suggesting that "they" are just not worth trying to reach. Preaching to the choir doesn't get it - if there were enough of us to have made a difference, we'd have made it already. We need to bring more people into agreement on various issues. We can't possibly agree with everybody on every issue, and don't need to. If a staunch anti abortionist and a "gun nut" are on the same page with you about a local environmental issue, work on the environmental issue. Maybe some of your other ideas will rub off on them.

    “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

    by Catte Nappe on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 08:26:40 AM PDT

    •  I felt some of that push back in that direction at (4+ / 0-)

      this event. One woman was worried about sounding fake while persuading. They spent some time trying to tell her that if she wasn't comfortable with talking about her values, she would sound fake. Trying to make those connections are hard for people. Persuasion is hard.

      •  I think one of the biggest challenges (4+ / 0-)
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        Putting oneself in the other person's viewpoint. But that's where you have to be to start the conversation. It actually means starting with listening, not talking. You search for something you do have in common, to build on. You also search for what is important to the other person. You probably have budget hawks in your circle who are all for cutting food stamp support to "those" people. You wouldn't start trying to persuade her with data about the impacts of poor nutrition on the education of children in low income neighborhoods. You'd start with things you have in common about being a mother, or the use of food stamps by military families. That is difficult for a lot of people to do. But as we know "just give them the facts and if they aren't dumber than a rock they'll get with the program" is not an effective recipe.

        And here I am - preaching to the choir myself. LOL

        “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

        by Catte Nappe on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 09:17:59 AM PDT

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