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  •  It passed with 66 votes (6+ / 0-)

    It would not have passed at all without those cuts. It also cuts direct payments to farmers, and ties crop insurance payments to environmental regulation compliance and reduces insurance payments for farms with income over $750,000. It provides funding to get high speed broadband set up in rural areas.
    But you go ahead and ignore all that so you can bash Democrats.

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 06:07:37 AM PDT

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    •  OK, so the campaign slogan will be: (0+ / 0-)

      Dems--"We'll cut your safety net less than they will because it's better for you if we do !"

      •  Well, we can have no farm bill (2+ / 0-)
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        in which case there will be no funding allocated for food stamps at all, and the Republicans will be perfectly satisfied with that.

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 06:19:37 AM PDT

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      •  I think the point is that (3+ / 0-)
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        there are many other things in that farm bill that were both good and progressive.

        This is the difficulty, of course, when one dimension of a bill, like SNAP which is important, becomes the defining feature of the bill in the minds of various factions.

        I would like to see SNAP decoupled from Farm Bills, but it can't really be, since the original purpose of the program was as a benefit to Big Ag back in the day.  It wasn't designed as a safety net program, it was designed as "pork".

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 06:47:03 AM PDT

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        •  my suggestion? (3+ / 0-)
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          Introduce bills that give exactly what we want.  RAISE the appropriation for food stamps.  Double it.

          Let every gopper in Congress vote against that.

          Then beat them over the head with it every election.

          Repeat as often as needed.

          And do the same for gun legislation, Social Security---every other issue where we have 90% of the public on our side.  Ram it all down the gopper's throats and make them choke on it.

          Pre-surrendering doesn't help--nothing we give up will pass the House anyway. So since the entire vote is just symbolic, can't we at least SYMBOLICALLY stand up for our presumed principles as a party?

          •  Might make sense (0+ / 0-)

            The Republican party is hanging on by the skin of it's teeth (and gerrymandering and voter suppression, of course) by the symbolic votes they take in the house to keep their base supportive.

            So, yeah, a few "let's double Social Security" or "let's double SNAP" or "let's end the war on drugs" or "let's close Gitmo" pieces of legislation, even if they have no chance of becoming law, would certainly end the "both sides are the same" meme right quick.

            It would also smoke out the Blue Dogs and wanna be DINOs in the Democratic Party ranks.

            Right now we have no way to tell what our representatives stand for, with all these 'comprehensive' 'omnibus' bills, other than what they tell us when they are trying to get re-elected. And you know they spin the truth during election season. Comprehensive bills are just another way for congresscritters to hide their true beliefs and allegiances in thousands of pages of fine print.

            "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

            by Orinoco on Fri Jun 21, 2013 at 11:15:19 AM PDT

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