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  •  Snowden could drag this out for years (3+ / 0-)
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    Edward Snowden Extradition Battle In Hong Kong Could Go On For Years

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    While espionage and theft of state secrets are not cited specifically in the treaty, equivalent charges could be pressed against Snowden under Hong Kong's Official Secrets Ordinance, legal experts said.

    If Hong Kong authorities did not charge Snowden with an equivalent crime, authorities could not extradite him, lawyers said. In the absence of charges, Snowden was also theoretically free to leave the city, one legal expert said.

    Simon Young, a law professor at the University of Hong Kong, said that while the first charge involving theft might readily find equivalence in Hong Kong, the latter two spying offences will likely attract "litigation and dispute" in the courts.

    The timeframe for such proceedings remains unclear, but Hectar Pun, a barrister with human rights expertise, was quoted as saying such an extradition could take three to five years.

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 12:11:22 PM PDT

    •  the bigger question is whether he's (2+ / 0-)
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      been bare-backing in all the wrong places

      2010
      August 11 - Assange arrives in Stockholm for a speaking trip where it was arranged for him to stay at the apartment of ''Miss A''.
      August 14 - Assange and ''Miss A'' attend a seminar by the Social Democrats' Brotherhood Movement, at which the Australian is the key speaker. The two reportedly have sex that night.
      August 17 - Assange reportedly has sex with ''Miss W'', a woman he met at the seminar on August 14.
      Between August 17 and 20 - The two women are said to have shared concerns over their sexual encounters with Assange.

      Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013

      by annieli on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 12:15:54 PM PDT

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      •  Gotta love a timeline... (0+ / 0-)

        ... that leaves out everything that the charges are actually about, namely:

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        1.  On 13th – 14th August 2010, in the home of the injured party [name given] in Stockholm, Assange, by using violence, forced the injured party to endure his restricting her freedom of movement. The violence consisted in a firm hold of the injured party’s arms and a forceful spreading of her legs whilst lying on top of her and with his body weight preventing her from moving or shifting.

        2.  On 13th – 14th August 2010, in the home of the injured party [name given] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity. Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her without her knowledge.

        3.  On 18th August 2010 or on any of the days before or after that date, in the home of the injured party [name given] in Stockholm, Assange deliberately molested the injured party by acting in a manner designed to violate her sexual integrity i.e. lying next to her and pressing his naked, erect penis to her body.

        4.  On 17th August 2010, in the home of the injured party [name given] in Enkoping, Assange deliberately consummated sexual intercourse with her by improperly exploiting that she, due to sleep, was in a helpless state. It is an aggravating circumstance that Assange, who was aware that it was the expressed wish of the injured party and a prerequisite of sexual intercourse that a condom be used, still consummated unprotected sexual intercourse with her. The sexual act was designed to violate the injured party’s sexual integrity.

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        #1 is unlawful sexual coersion.  #2 and #3 are molestation.  #4 is rape.

        While lots of people talk about it like it's about condoms, they're at best tangential to the two most serious charges.  Charge #1 is that he tried to force sex against the will of a woman, prying her legs open while she resisted; she reportedly had to curl up into a ball to stop him, as the simple fact that she was resisting wasn't enough to get him to stop.  The reason she wanted him not to was because he was trying to do it unprotected, but that's totally tangential to the charge.  Charge 4 is that he F*ed a sleeping girl in order to work around her repeated and explicit refusal to consent to unprotected sex.  The crime is having sex with a sleeping person.  It's merely an aggravating factor that it was done in a manner expressly forbidden by the victim.

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