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  •  The only downside (4+ / 0-)
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    NancyWH, FloridaSNMOM, dewtx, NonnyO

    The "American spy" was brought in to strains of the Imperial March.  That's us, folks.  We introduced the world to Star Wars and then promptly became the Empire.

    For those of you who prefer Bartlett to Obama, re-watch the West Wing. For those who prefer Clinton, re-watch old news videos.

    by Ptolemy on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 09:43:34 AM PDT

    •  I'm not a Star Wars geek... (0+ / 0-)

      ... so I had to go look up the music.  The Imperial March is also known as Darth Vader's Theme.  I do know Darth Vader is the villain; I saw the first Star Wars movie many, many years ago and left the theater dang near deaf because of the volume of the sound.  My ear drums rang for a week afterward..., which, of course, is why I came to dislike the whole Star Wars thing.  The volume of the thing was much, much too loud.

      I suspect people in Egypt probably know the music better than we do and playing the villain's theme probably meant more to them than it does anyone in the US who just hear background noise without meaning.


      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 11:28:30 AM PDT

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      •  People in the U.S. just hear background noise? (0+ / 0-)

        Not this American. I recognized it the moment I heard it, and I'm not what you'd call a "Star Wars geek" either. But it is in the popular culture. Volkswagen featured this theme in a popular Superbowl commercial a couple of years ago. I'd guess a fairly large block of Americans - as well as moviegoers around the world - could pick it out as more than just "background noise."

        Where I think you're both wrong, however, is its usage in this segment. Jon was introduced, satirically, as an "enemy spy" against the Morsi regime. Thus, recognizable "bad guy" music was played as he was brought into the studio. It wasn't intended as a commentary on the fact that he was American, or Jewish, or a westerner, or whatever. It was intended to enforce the joke, once the joke was revealed, that the "enemy spy" was in fact fellow comedian Jon Stewart. The idea that Egyptians genuinely associate America with the Imperial March theme is mere projection.

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        by dzog on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 02:35:55 PM PDT

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        •  Your second paragraph... (0+ / 0-)

          ... is undoubtedly correct.

          I'm 67, my early years we didn't have TV, so my entertainment was always books.  I have ended up with the largest private library of anyone I know (and it's still being added to, though not as often since I got my first computer so much of my reading of current events is online).  We didn't get our first TV until I was around 13/14, and back then the reception was snowy and grainy black and white out in the dingtoolies.  In any case, I'm quite comfortable with contemplative silence since I don't need noise in the background all the time via TV or radio or whatever.

          I have turned off my TV permanently.  I watch Stewart and Colbert on Hulu, and I think I was up to watching about six or seven other shows per week on Hulu over the winter and for the summer I'm down to two or three shows besides Stewart and Colbert per week on Hulu.  It's just been those two and one this week.  It seems the networks are coordinating their shows and if there's a monstrous sporting event the other two primary networks show reruns opposite them if the sporting event isn't on their own network.  I also do not follow any of the reality TV shows; the ads alone make me lose IQ points so I'd never actually watch reality shows.

          I never, ever watch sports on TV, so the ad during a sports game you're referring to is something I didn't/wouldn't see.  I adamantly refuse to get cable because I refuse to pay to get ads I get for free otherwise, and I don't want even one penny of my money going for "bundled" sports networks I'd never watch under any circumstances.  If cable TV companies want my money, it must come without ads and I get to choose the networks.  Really, how many channels can one person watch?

          Hulu suits me because I can watch at my leisure when I have time - and I can mute the ads or take the earphones off; they have fewer ads than the network web sites.  Two shows I watched over the winter went to the network web site, and if I mute those ads the sound doesn't come back on for the show when I un-mute it, so I just remove the earphones while the ads are on.

          Ads and commercials have always proved to be annoying background noise for me.  I loathe TV ads - probably more than anyone else you've ever met, and I will go to any lengths to avoid them.

          Even the law that mandates ad volume is not to be above that of shows hasn't helped the noise factor and I'd rather not disturb my neighbors if I watch TV late at night or have myself blasted out of bed by the volume of sound waves for ads when I can barely hear the show I might be watching because the volume for them is so low.  I got the idea for ear phones after being hospitalized and having the speaker for the TV in the room on the call monitor thing on the patient bed, got an extension to plug into the TV audio and ear phones and used that for years.  It kept me from dang near breaking my fingers hitting mute when ads come on and I don't wish to disturb my neighbors in the middle of the night if I'm watching TV.

          Better yet, YouTube has old shows like BBC documentaries and dramas without ads!  Since they revamped their web site full-length shows - and even movies - are on YouTube and when I want primarily ad-free entertainment I click around and see what's on and watch shows on YouTube.  I collect the links and make sure any series episodes are in chronological order and watch the shows, or find old or newer movies to watch on YouTube.

          Or, when I'm doing genealogy research and/or documentation online I sometimes listen to music on Pandora.  Cheerful Celtic music is great "background noise" when my mind is preoccupied with names and dates.

          So, popular culture or not, Star Wars theme music is not familiar to absolutely everyone.

          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 03:18:22 PM PDT

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