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  •  I've been embracing LEDs for a while (27+ / 0-)

    I don't think the most effective argument is any kind of direct "initial cost/operating expense/service life" comparison. All that generally does is cause glazing of eyes, which lets rethuglicans in.

    From my own experience, popping the $$$ to change out a couple of bulbs and living with them for a while will be a more dramatic argument. First, try removing an LED bulb after it's been on for a week. Warm, yes, but it's certainly do-able. Not so with an incandescent.

    That leads to argument #2—turning off lights behind you when you leave a room. My wife used to yell at me because I wanted to leave the small R-16 flood over the toilet burning as a night light (and reading lamp…). The energy cost of the LED R-16 is almost negligible.

    I replaced two 100W incandescents on my drill press with LEDs. Now I don't have to feel wasteful if I don't turn them off right away. Same thing with a "mood"/night light in our library. Much like the toilet flood, no harm in leaving it on.

    In a powder bath remodel I recently concluded, I used LEDs for both the over sink lighting and the ceiling fixture. Again, energy costs are minimal and we don't have to feel guilty if we inadvertently leave them on.

    I skipped right past the CFLs. Too noisy (RF wise), not dimmable (that I know of), too short a lifespan.

    Eventually I'll have everything LED in the house and I don't care if I have to replace before the 30,000 hours. It's still worth it on a day-to-day basis.

    •  Very doubtful that I will buy any more CFLs (7+ / 0-)

      Plan on LEDs for any light that gets significant use, and a few halogens or small incandescents for fixtures that are rarely used.

      I've put in three LED bulbs so far, and they've gotten no complaints.  I really couldn't put a CFL into any busy part of the house for the complaints.

      I have one CFL in our spare bedroom that makes a noticeable audible hum, and has since it was new.

    •  Some CFLs are dimmable (1+ / 0-)
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      by Dogs are fuzzy on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 03:48:50 PM PDT

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    •  I don't need dimmers. (2+ / 0-)
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      I cannot imagine wanting to have LESS light if I want to have light at all.  Darkness is for sleeping.

      I was also exquisitely trained as a child to turn off all lights whenever leaving a room.  I have to literally FORCE myself to leave a light on when I step from one room to another, it's such an ingrained habit.  This could be why I experience very little lifespan benefit from CFLs.

      I use CFLs to get the most light out of my ancient wiring and underrated fixtures.  By putting a 42-watt CFL into fixtures made for 60-watt incandescents, I can get twice as much light.    But in a five-light chandelier, I'll put three CFLs and 2 incandescents, so that I get a better color spectrum and some "instant-on".

      •  I'm the opposite (0+ / 0-)

        Sometimes I just can't take bright lights. I dim my laptop all the way down, and dim my LED lights down too.

        Perhaps my eyes are more sensitive to light than yours are. It runs in my family to be like that.

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        by splashy on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 03:24:06 AM PDT

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        •  There's lots of variation (0+ / 0-)

          in human perceptive arrays, certainly.  I tend to think of my problem as being connected to the diurnal cycling apparatus.  I'm exquisitely sensitive to light-dark levels in regard to state of consciousness.  I simply cannot focus intellectually without light levels approaching full outdoor daylight.  OTOH, give me enough light and I don't need caffeine; I can't sleep without near-total darkness.

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