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  •  Your first mistake was watching FOX (9+ / 0-)

    First of all the law was passed in 2007.  Second it didn't ban incandescent bulbs, it just required bulbs be more efficient.  So Obama didn't ban shit and only a FOX viewing moron would seriously buy that right wing bullshit.

    As for heavy metals, it's virtually impossible to manufacture ANY bulb without some metal in it.  Is the technology perfect?  Probably not.  Then again teh incandescent has had over 110 years to be perfected.  The other advantage is that when a LED bulb breaks it doesb't spray the metal out.  If there are some heavy metals in the bulbs in many cases those metals can be replaced by less toxic substitutes.  Finally, unless you break a bulb, that bulb will last 20 or so years so the amount of heavy metals you'll have to properly dispose of is minimal when compared to other bulbs.  I would say that's a small inconvenience considering you're saving over $200 PER BULB over the llifetime of those bulbs.    

    This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

    by DisNoir36 on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 11:55:35 AM PDT

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    •  I'm actually not that worried about the toxicity (0+ / 0-)

      most healthy people are rather robust.

      The bigger issue here is how some people are willing to nitpick some technologies to death why unquestioningly embracing others, even to the point of lying about them in their diaries.

      I just find it puzzling (and intriguing!)

      •  I think you're going too far (3+ / 0-)
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        when you suggest that people LIE in their eagerness to promote their favorite tech.  It's really much more of a selective attention to detail.  But they can get FAR too emotional about it (not just here -- one of my best friends in the off-line world came close to screaming at me on this same issue less than a week ago).  I think that the writings of John Michael Greer on The Archdruid Report (LINK) concerning the ideology of Progress and Civil Religions have a lot of relevance if you're really interested.

        The bottom line is that "science" has taken over much of the role of religion in American civil society, and theological discussions can get very intense.  Challenging a "breakthrough" technology on pragmatic grounds isn't a comment on the current state of the technology or its suitability for your purposes; it's a value-laden attack on the soteriology of Progress.

      •  Have you balanced the use of metals in the LED (1+ / 0-)
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        circuits with the reduction in heavy metal pollution (especially mercury) from power plants (especially coal-fired)?  That's not something Fox News would mention, gien they're gung-ho about supporting coal.  Fox blames Obama for a "war on coal", neglecting to mention that coal can't compete with cheaper natural gas from fracking (which Fox also supports, unless it shows Obama in a good light).

        A Fairleigh University study showed that people who watch Fox are LESS well informed than people who watch no news at all.  In short, Fox is unreliable as a news source- they're a far right wing propaganda outlet.  Citing them does not help anyone's case.

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