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  •  I'm of a mind that you're not abusing (4+ / 0-)

    a drug if you're using it to treat something, even if it's a higher dosage than it should be. I personally feel abuse can only be determined if you're taking a drug and have no medical issues. But that's just me.

    I'd like to start a new meme: "No means no" is a misnomer. It should be "Only 'Yes' means yes." Just because someone doesn't say "No" doesn't mean they've given consent. If she didn't say "Yes", there is no consent.

    by second gen on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 08:44:22 AM PDT

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    •  Got to disagree a bit (1+ / 0-)
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      Briefly: was on methadone for pain management. It was my first opiate, and it has no mood elevation. Great!

      I moved to NYC. "They have clinics for people like you," I was told. Primary physician switched me from methadone to oxycodone. You see, that had no social stigma, compared to methadone in NYC.

      Oxycodone makes you feel good. Do you want to be happy? It makes you happy. Do you want to feel happier? It makes you happy. Would you like to be happy now? It makes you happy. . . .

      I recognized that I was "running out" too early. I knew that I was not taking too many, and yet I had to have. I discovered it the first month, and I knew very well what it meant. I asked and got switched to MScontin (time released morphine). I've been on that since.

      MScontin is off-patent, and it has no mood elevation to speak of (sleep only), but it's the real dope.

      The point is that any of these drugs that have mood altering effects can be dangerous simply because we all want to be happy.

      Everyone's innocent of some crime.

      by The Geogre on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 11:18:22 AM PDT

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      •  In that case, I can see your point. But I have (1+ / 0-)
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        issue with people who, like my mother, would never let my dad have morphine for pain because he was a recovering alcoholic, and she was afraid he would cross addict. This thinking went right through to the last 2 weeks of his life as he lay in the hospital, waiting to die. In pain. All feeding and treatments had been withdrawn. Yet she refused to let them give him morphine because she was afraid of the addiction stigma. I'd like to think that was one of the times that a doc or nurse ignored things and slipped him some morphine anyway. I know, slippery slope and all that, but damn. Who cares if he gets addicted?! He's dying.

        I'd like to start a new meme: "No means no" is a misnomer. It should be "Only 'Yes' means yes." Just because someone doesn't say "No" doesn't mean they've given consent. If she didn't say "Yes", there is no consent.

        by second gen on Sun Jun 23, 2013 at 11:51:16 AM PDT

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        •  From what I have seen (2+ / 0-)
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          The side effects from morphine and other narcotics make it less likely that those with a more normal response will become addicted once they are not in pain.

          For instance, I'm not likely to become addicted to it, because all those kinds of pain killers slow my GI tract down a huge amount, leading to much pain. I start comparing pains, and decide that the original pain isn't as bad as the pain killer caused pain, so I stop.

          Brings to mind what Larry Flynt said about narcotics. He had major back problems from being shot, and was "addicted" to pain killers right up until they were able to operate on the nerves and stop the pain. After that, he didn't want it any more.

          Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

          by splashy on Mon Jun 24, 2013 at 12:39:01 AM PDT

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