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  •  Bradley Manning is in the military (0+ / 0-)

    Snowden is a civilian did you miss that? If Manning was mistreated that's wrong, but we're talking apples and oranges. But here's one way to find out. Tell the ACLU to advise Snowden to face his accusers in a court of law and stop running. Manning didn't.

    •  Stop being condescending. Here's the deal: (1+ / 0-)
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      If Manning was mistreated that's wrong
      Yes, Manning is military. And guess who is the Commander-in-Chief?  And guess who said he was being treated just fine when he clearly wasn't?  And guess who said Manning was guilty before any trial had taken place?

      There is ample evidence of this administration avoiding, neglecting and skirting the rule of law.

      There is nothing in the ACLU petition which says that Snowden shouldn't face a court. In fact, that is specifically what it does ask for.  Did you bother to read it?

      Do you know the authority claimed by this country now to treat our enemies? Without trial and indefinite detentions on order of the president?

      Here's the text:

      To President Obama:

      We stand opposed to any attempt to treat Edward Snowden as a traitor.  Our government must also not pursue the case against him outside the ordinary course of American justice. He is entitled to the rule of law and constitutional protections that so many before us died to defend.

      Snowden is innocent until proven guilty before a court of law and he must be afforded all of his rights as an American citizen. If he is brought to an American court, he must be afforded every opportunity to defend himself and convince a judge that what he did was justifiable and patriotic, even if he is charged with violating laws that themselves pose a threat to our democracy.

      Finally, we say as Americans that we are tired of seeing liberty sacrificed on the altar of security and having a handful of lawmakers decide what we should and should not know. We are tired of living in a nation governed by fear instead of the principles of freedom and liberty that made this nation great.

      Just curious: Do you disagree with any of the petition points above?

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Sat Jun 22, 2013 at 10:45:53 PM PDT

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