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  •  I was going to (3+ / 0-)
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    I was going to make the same observation.  By 1968, the tide of public opinion had turned against the war.  I was a teenage during those times.  

    In 1968, the American people voted in a candidate who said he had a secret plan to end the war.  No, not Hubert Humphrey.  Richard Nixon had the secret plan.  Humphrey couldn't shed the LBJ baggage over the war.  

    So, a case could be made that many people voted against the war in 1968 and had been taken for a ride.  

    Ironically, the same could be said for 2008.  We voted for change and got the same old/same old when it came to spying on the American public.  

    History does indeed repeat itself.  

    •  I remember the protests (7+ / 0-)

      SDS, Kent State, CSN&Y etc.

      the young people were all for ending the war,

      the oldsters not so much.


      Nixon had a landslide win in 72,

      and if I'm not mistaken he took that a signal for "full steam" ahead, for a while.

      It wasn't  until people like my parents, bought and read the "best-selling" Pentagon Papers book,
      that the "middle of the road" tide started to turn against the war.  People don't like being lied to.

      as I remember anyways.  


      And even so it took Ford all the way to 1973,
      to finally pull out for good.

      Those military wheels turn slowly and all that.

      So much for the dominoes.

      •  i was lucky, (3+ / 0-)
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        both my parents were against the war from the git-go.  one a democrat, one a republican.  both lived through the great depression and had first- and second-hand knowledge of WWII.  

        i consider their joint stand against that war one of the defining models of my life.  

        "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

        by kj in missouri on Mon Jun 24, 2013 at 06:10:43 PM PDT

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      •  The Vietnam ceasefire was signed... (0+ / 0-)

        ...one week after Nixon's second inaugural, IIRC (though there was that Hanoi bombing the day after Christmas '72, again IIRC).  POWs were exchanged and combat troops came home (though it took a few months).  Ford didn't become POTUS until August of 1974.  Saigon fell in April of '75.  It's really curious to me how few people understand this, even people left of center.

        The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early; don't mistake an unfulfilled dream for a lost one. A dream has no deadline!

        by Panurge on Mon Jun 24, 2013 at 09:48:26 PM PDT

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