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  •  You don't have to like Ellsberg. (2+ / 0-)
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    People were pretty pissed at Ellsberg at the time, just as they are with Snowden, now.

    Of course, that feeling mellowed over time, just as it will with Snowden.

    Stop the NRA and the NSA
    Repeal the Patriot Act and the 2nd Amendment

    by dream weaver on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 06:41:54 AM PDT

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    •  Just as it is for Manning? (0+ / 0-)

      I feel less and less strongly about Manning with every charge he pleads guilty to from his cell in Leavenworth.

      Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

      by Wisper on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 06:53:49 AM PDT

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      •  Manning is a much more sympathetic (0+ / 0-)

        character. Not that what he did was any better (at least Snowden knew what he was releasing, while Manning released 400,000 documents whose content was unknown to him). But Manning is very young and is obviously a bit disturbed. He should never have been in the Army, let alone assigned to intelligence. He's basically a messed-up kid who did something really stupid that he now can't take back. Snowden is older and seemingly normal, and planned his escapade as a means of achieving fame. Both should serve serious time, but reasonable people (especially liberals) would be heartless to at least not feel sorry for Manning. Snowden can and should suffer.

        •  You sound like a sadist. (0+ / 0-)
          Snowden can and should suffer.

          Stop the NRA and the NSA
          Repeal the Patriot Act and the 2nd Amendment

          by dream weaver on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 08:32:19 AM PDT

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          •  I'd stop short of saying leakers (0+ / 0-)

            should be "shot in the balls", which is a quote from Snowden (who is , it turns out, a Paulite). Every single day Snowden becomes harder to support, no?

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