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  •  It fits in perfectly (6+ / 0-)

    because the demand adheres to basic enviro reg requirements and there's no effing way the pipeline which will transmit shite that is significantly exacerbating the problem of carbon pollution can meet that requirement.

    National interests are affected by international interests.  What happens in Alberta doesn't stay in Alberta.

    If the statement is cute by half -- then the hypocrisy will be roundly hammered.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Tue Jun 25, 2013 at 01:32:29 PM PDT

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    •  solar powered bulldozers (4+ / 0-)
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      AoT, kharma, blueoasis, b33mm3up

      or bio-diesel

      pipeline tubing is recyclable.

      grass replanted.

      educational sign programs.

      The pipeline just sits there, pumps powered by nearby wind farms?

      See, no pollution!

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Tue Jun 25, 2013 at 02:18:58 PM PDT

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    •  Alberta and Canada in general (0+ / 0-)

      have their own interests . . . which they will pursue.  Global warming probably benefits Canada long term, and in the near term resource extraction is what they do for a living.  They're not going to shut down the tar sands operations regardless what happens with KXL . . . the only "threat" to that is potentially lower cost "tight" oil production in the US which will cut into Canadian sales to the US . . . which in turn simply increases pressure to sell to China instead.

      Keystone is a "deal" already made (in secret) . . . if Obama decides to renege on it there will be a substantial (and not necessarily obvious) price to be paid, and the "environmental benefits" will be few to none.  Symbolic gestures for domestic consumption do not produce any real "solutions".

      Fake Left, Drive Right . . . not my idea of a Democrat . . .

      by Deward Hastings on Tue Jun 25, 2013 at 04:59:29 PM PDT

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