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  •  let me put it this way: (2+ / 0-)
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    dissidentpoet, Larsstephens

    If you were to call me "Jew boy", you would be picking your face up off the floor after I chewed it off.  If my friend Yonatan calls me Jew boy - I laugh.  Because he's a Jew and I'm a Jew and we are friends and I KNOW exactly how he meant it and why he said it.

    You - I don't know.

    What I listen to, what my friends say to me - have absolutely ZERO relationship with what you can say to me as appropriate.  

    And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

    by Mortifyd on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 05:16:21 PM PDT

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    •  Oh, that I get (0+ / 0-)

      Except when the same word is bandied about not merely between friends, but at high volume screaming in MY ears.  At that point, I'm afraid I begin to interpret it as an assault thinly disguised as "music" or "private conversation".  Just how private and personal is a conversation that's screamed at the top of your lungs in a thin-walled apartment when you know very well the neighbor is trying to sleep?  Just how innocuous is "music" which consists of little other than strings of curses to a frenetic drumbeat, played at volumes which you already know have caused the neighbor to 1) speak to you about it, 2) call the cops, and 3) threaten to write to the landlord?

      I'm sorry, but at some point one loses the privilege of sole use, when he also demands the right to broadcast the offending terms in an offensive manner to the general public.  If it's bad taste, and you're the one insisting that it's bad taste, then a certain respect for the opinions of others should impel you to refrain from exercising it quite so freely.  

      Or, in terms of your example, do you spend several hours a day screaming "KIKE!" at the top of your lungs in the hearing of old ladies, interlaced with a half-dozen other obscenities, most notably the "F" word?  I haven't gotten that impression from reading your diaries.  Vulgar is vulgar, and applies equally to members of all ethnic, minority, and majority groups.

      •  the "F" word is one of my favourites actually (1+ / 0-)
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        but I have basic social training and don't use it all the time.

        Your issues seem to be more shitty neighbours than who gets to use the N word to me, sorry.  Offensive or not, slurs are powerful words in the mouths of the outgroup and terms of affection and membership in the ingroup.  That's just how language works.

        And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

        by Mortifyd on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 06:18:46 PM PDT

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