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  •  If she had (3+ / 0-)
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    "a good upbringing" during that time period (and one that was as class-specific" as that phrase suggests, then she as a well-brought up young Southern lady would never have used the N-word.

    She might have harbored racist beliefs, but that word wouldn't have been tolerated from young ladies with a good upbringing".  From her brother, very likely, but not from her. Class standards wouldn't have allowed it.

    That's another reason this stuff doesn't ring true, it's mixing too many generations and too many class boundaries, too.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Wed Jun 26, 2013 at 09:32:28 PM PDT

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    •  You are making my point. (0+ / 0-)

      I'm not convinced that her upbringing was, in fact, "good," and that she wasn't taught racism.  It appears to me that she's trying to convince herself that she was taught good values...that saying the N-word in her older years was just an anomaly, an accident that bears no relationship to her upbringing.

      •  My point is that (0+ / 0-)

        the argument she and others are making is not an argument for her generation and her class background. To paraphrase Johnny Cochrane, "it does not fit".

        I don't really care what her upbringing was, just that if she is claiming a so-called culturally-specific explanation for her behavior, she ought to have the dimensions of that culture specific and she doesn't.  There are some external and internal contradictions to this "cultural" cover story that's she and her supporters are trying to throw over this.

        It's both ill-fitting and inconsistent and Southerners, especially Southerners of that generation and the ones close to it can recognize that.    

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 04:40:06 AM PDT

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        •  I hear what you're saying. (0+ / 0-)

          I think where we differ is that I don't see such clear lines of demarcation that would allow an entire generation to be so neatly defined.  I think of racism as being more like child abuse in that it perpetuates itself through generations until someone consciously breaks the cycle.

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