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  •  I will be delighted to vote and work for (7+ / 0-)

    a Democratic candidate in 2016 . . . if we get one.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 07:01:30 AM PDT

    •  Good news! You can work to influence that it (0+ / 0-)

      happens too.

      I was gonna listen to that, but then, um, I just carried on living my life. - Aldous Snow

      by GoGoGoEverton on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 07:05:01 AM PDT

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      •  me vs. Hillary Clinton? (4+ / 0-)
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        sh . . . yeah, right.

        Anything above city councilmember in a corporated area of 100K or less, and you basically get what the Party brass chooses for you.

        May the brass choose wisely this next time.

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 07:07:31 AM PDT

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        •  Here's the thing about Clinton... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...or anyone that gives me the same degree of reservation/opposition but has the same or better chance of winning - winning is the prize. There's no second place prize. And no one I would love will run or get elected.

          The Supreme Court has always been the gold ring because it impacts and resonates for generations.

          Why would abortion hating Evangelicals stick with the Republicans who are as loathsome and corrupt to most of them as Democrats are?

          Politics is about winning and getting behind the best gladiator, not a god, not a saint, a blood curdling, armored, armed, over-sized gladiator in the lead of the biggest army. The fates of the priests, teachers, and children depend on who wins the battle, not who's right.

          That's my pathetic metaphor for the day. ;)

          •  That's why the primary process is so damned (2+ / 0-)
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            important. That's when WE get to choose OUR gladiator.

            It's also when the prejudice of the corporate media is most apparent. Any candidate running even closely aligned with populist positions is instantly attacked, ridiculed, and targeted for character assassination.

            That's where the real fight should take place with it merely serving to lay the groundwork for the final battle.

            It has to be people-powered and people-financed. Anything otherwise is just corporate corruption in action getting their "ringer" into the game.

            And yeah, I know, with what it costs to run a campaign and the added effectiveness of corporate media propaganda and personality cult 'cultivation', good luck with that, right?

            Physics is bulls**t. Don't let them fool you. Fire IS magic.
            (Facts brought to you by the Party of the Future - the GOP)

            by Pescadero Bill on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 08:49:50 AM PDT

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            •  And getting these new voter id & picture id cards (2+ / 0-)
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              ...in the hands of every voter in those states. The Democratic parties need to visit every voter and get them equipped with whatever id needed and registered in the next year - a vital and totally achievable goal.

          •  While I can appreciate what you have said here... (0+ / 0-)

            I think the real thing is that the bank of America, Exxon, Koch Brothers, Goldman Sachs of the world don't give a shit about abortion, racial equality, gay rights, etc...

            The democrats and the republicans have to have something to differentiate themselves so they fight about what they can.  The harder they fight, the more it appears we have a choice in the elections.  

            Truth be told, I don't really think that the politicians give a rat's ass about these social issues either.  They know what they need to 'Believe" to get elected in which districts and comply as needed, put on their warrior face and act like they are saving the world.

            When the vote is close, just enough voters from either side always come forth when it is in the interest of the money players.  There will always be "illegal" immigrants because big ag corporations need them to work for slave wages.  Nobody in congress is talking about going after the corporations who hire the immigrants.  They go after the poor schmuck who is just trying to feed his children.

            It always seems to work out in favor of the same people no matter who is in office.  When the republicans had the house, senate and the presidency for six years, none of this abortion crap we see now was going on.  Why was that?  They had ample time to destroy Roe vs. Wade.  Why didn't they?  They started going ape shit crazy right after they lost power...  

            I used to see guys do that in bars.  They would toss insults back and forth a few inches from each other and never touch one another but as soon as someone would grab them to hold them back, they would fight with a  crazy "let me at him" type effort... all for show.  They wanted everyone to think that if only they weren't being held back, they would kick this guys ass.

            Kayfabe has become my favorite word lately because it so accurately describes my opinion of politics today.  It's all just one big grand illusion of freedom and choice.  Go ahead and pick your corporate representative who will be administering the freedoms you will be allowed to practice at the prescribed times and locations.

            "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

            by Buckeye Nut Schell on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 02:53:19 PM PDT

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